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Was hoping we could get an update from our good friend Dutchie. I believe it has now been 18 months since Dutchie's procedure, so I'm interested in whether anything changed for him. Last we heard around the 1 year mark, he was seeing a burst in growth, but then got banned temporarily. Any chance the moderators can restore his posting privileges or maybe even get an update from Doug?

I'm glad to see this website allowing the use of one of JT's videos again.

Ditto - especially for someone with 11 lifetime posts requesting the removal of a contributing member with 800 odd posts - and then stalks the guys thread to call him a troll. I definitely see a troll, but it's not Dutchie

So I guess from the sounds of it, Dutchie is saying that it wasn't Dr Hassan's fault that he got very little growth, was just a secret shampoo that was stunting the growth all along. Like I said, let's see some pictures and tell us the name of this shampoo. Don't worry Jonny boy - I still love your posts

You going to elaborate more about this secret formula or what?

I hardly think 7 posts gives you the right to make such a request. Dutchie has not violated any terms and conditions of this forum, and has always been respectful and curtious to other members. Nothing wrong at all with him exercising his sense of humor, and if you don't like it, then nobody is forcing you to read his posts.

This one? Let's see some pics please Dutchie.

Paleo, can you please post pics of your final result from the Doganay procedure? Only fair that you post these seeing that your initial posts and review led to his removal from the recommended list. The community deserves to now see how your final result actually turned out, or are you just trying to hide something? Your reluctance to post these leads everyone to assume that the final result was actually pretty good. Also not fair for you to continue to defame Dognanay without posting further evidence that he did in fact butcher you like you claim. Put your money where your mouth is please sir.

Hello Mike How about sharing some pics? Have you given any of the LA clinics a look by any chance? Dr Diep is outstanding, and I am hearing recent noise about the Armani clinic, have you given them a look?

Must be because of the old flip phone without a very good camera that you have. Looks like it's not letting you send messages either

Let's see some before and after pictures then. Forum members would greatly appreciate seeing evedience of your impressive regrowth as this is a real game changer then. You are doing a disservice to this forum by not sharing these pics with us and will blocks posters from any means that's helps one enjoy a good thick of hair. Also, did you purchase this Lipogaine shampoo in Hungary?

Brian Urlacher files hair-raising lawsuit against Florida clinic | ProFootballTalk Very interesting read.

Bill, couple of things from my end: 1) I actually find myself agreeing with you somewhat, but the whole point of this forum is for posters to document their journey. Nothing wrong with Dutchie expressing his dissatisfaction with service being given, although he himself by admission can be too quick to the trigger at times, so makes sense for him to just reign it in for the next few months until the Dr is given a fair opportunity to evaluate what's wrong or what went wrong, if anything. Dutchie more than anything is just looking to us to support him, and it's prudent to let him to continue to document his progress here, whilst at the same time exercising a degree of restraint in his tone. 2) Even though Dutchie has agreed to fly out to Vancouver, I disagree that this is a necessity. At the 12 months mark, which is now, I don't see anything wrong with Dutchie calling it like it is. Furthermore, HD pictures should suffice for Dr Hasson to do an evaluation. He has Ferko touring the US, and I believe a rep in Toronto. Either can go to Dutchie and take his pictures or a video. I think Dutchie is just being extra diligent by waiting a few more months, and kudos to him, but I hardly think it's fair to handcuff him with restrictions. Like I said, he should reign it in a bit for now, but I think the restrictions are unfair. It's your castle though. 3) how did you get to 95% success rate? Do you have anything to substantiate that claim?

Oh yeah, the "friends" part was the real kicker. At a minimum he could've claimed that he himself uses it. That may have made his claims just a little bit believable if not for this being the only time he has ever posted in a thread to actually advise the OP instead of hijacking it for his own benefit. Who knows, maybe the Nioxin they sell in Hungary has a secret formula that actually does work.

Why are you excluding the airfare from the $21,000 Baubac quote when you live in Hungary?

This is the most ridiculous statement. Your friends just happen use it so it must be good. If it's so good, why don't you use it? Say what you want about your friends, Nioxin DOES NOT regrow hair, nor does it prevent hair loss. At best it my create a thickening effect, but there are much more effective and much cheaper hair thickening shampoo products on the market. Please stop spreading false statements , it is disruptive to the forums and blocks posters from any means that's helps one enjoy a good thick of hair. Why did you lie about living in Hungary when in another post you all but admitted that you actually live in the US?

Add Nizoral to your regimen, but only use that twice a week. I personally use Aveeda Pure Abundance Shampoo and Conditioner. It won't regrow hair or prevent hair loss, but does the trick in terms of the thickening effect. L'Oreal Vive is another shampoo posters have sworn by, but I personally pefert the Aveeda.

How did you get a flight of $1500 from Hungary to Turkey? There must be cheaper flights from Hungary surely. That's where Milo says he lives you know. You will also need to estimate the cost of flights from Hungary to LA and add to the Armani total. I see flights costing less than $200 return for Budapest to Istanbul.

Whoops - your profile says you live in Hungary, so why would you then ask the question above that explicitly implies that you live in the USA? Turkey is definitely not all that far from Hungary when compared to California, which is. Gotcha!!! Seeing you have taken particular interest in a New York thread, am I right in saying you live in New York? Why did you lie about living in Hungary?

Complete and utter waste of money

Oh for goodness sake. Just when it looked like he was going to pull the trigger and go with a particular surgeon, someone talks him out of it. Back to square one again. Hey Milo, where are those pics you promised to share?

How about you share some pics with us and then we can help you decide how much density is enough. I think seeing that you found a clinic that is willing to do 70 - 90 grafts/cm2 into your existing hair, it looks like a match made in heaven, I know how much you love high density, so I say Armani is your man. Pull the trigger and go for it. Doesn't look like you will find another clinic that can go so high. Maybe if you throw in some extra cash on the day, they will treat you like a celebrity and go in excess of 100 grafts /cm2.

I believe he said his camera is too old and outdated. I am sure he is searching the internet as we speak looking for a 2nd hand more modern camera that is similar to his existing camera, but at the same time slightly difference in appearance so that he can't get them mixed up and mistake one for the other. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and am looking forward to see those pics taken on his new 2nd hand HD camera so we can all give him some feedback. I wonder what happened to the OP btw. Very strange that he created a new account just to ask one single question and then disappeared.

follow his posts below. He got banned and then kept creating alias's to get back on. Some of his posts got deleted by the Moderators as they were homophobic and nasty. Bottom line is he has been wondering around this forum for years and years chasing the perfect surgeon who will give him full density, yet won't actually pull the trigger. He used to be obsessed with Rahal, but recently turned on him. Probably because Rahal turned him away. Read the posts below and compare him and his alias's to Milo. I think it's the same guy. You will notice the following themes: 1) any procedure or surgeon that does not provide perfect density is a failure 2) anyone who disagrees with him is a troll. Milo has been more restrained, but has referenced to trolls and trolling 3) see his obsession with hair products and other natural remedies to prevent hair loss 4) he creates multiple threads asking a multitude of questions, but seems to be all over the place and nowhere close to actually committing to one surgeon and pulling the trigger Hair Restoration Social Network ? Community for and by Hair Loss Patients - taurusrisen's Profile http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/181873-hair-loss-killing-my-holiday-spirit.html * http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182045-conflict-time-between-hair-transplant-work.html Hair Restoration Social Network ? Community for and by Hair Loss Patients - glenalm's Profile http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184594-top-10-docs-give-same-quality-hair-transplant-so-doesnt-matter-who-you-go.html

Please - SMS7000 and Milo is the same person. Taurisrisen lives in New York. Milo created this alias so that he could ask his question without drawing suspicion to himself. Milo is SMS7000 who is Taurisrisen. Milo also will not post any pictures of his hair - otherwise we will know it's hm. Finally, Taurisrisen was also obsessed with density - just like Milo is. Bill / David, I betcha that if you run SMS7000's IP address with either Milo or the old Tauris profiles, you will get a match.