Alpine1

^^^ Trying but it's getting very tough. Think I need to take a break.

Wow. Can't get anything pass you. You are a sharp one. I suppose you did ample research on Honduras' space program as well uh?

When did i ever say he does nose jobs? I don't know of any HT surgeon, good or bad, that moonlights as a nose surgeon. I think you need to read and not skim.

^^^ Yes I'm just a troll making this stuff up. Ugh. You guys are hopeless.

It would be if I got it all at once. There was 18 months in between surgeries. There I fixed it for you. Pushing the envelope and HT do not go together. Let me know how your "pushed the envelope" HT looks in 5 years. Doctors like Hasson are why doctors like McAndrews and Bernstein do mostly repair work. You want to be super happy for the next 3 years and then depressed for the next 50, or do you want to just be satisfied for the rest of your life?

1. Mega-sessions Grafts above 2,500 have about a %70 survival rate whereas grafts below 2,500 have about %100 survival rate. These doctors are effectively throwing at least %30 of your very limited donor hair in the trash. But mega-sessions make them more money so no concern there for them. 2. Pack grafts too close You guys see these pictures of densely packed grafts and fly off the handle about how great a surgeon they are but they are wasted grafts since the human eye can not tell the difference between much further spaced grafts. Again completely wasting your very limited donor hair. 3. Promoting FUE over FUT, sometimes passionately Again these guys don't seem to care about destroying your very limited donor hair. Nothing will decimate your donor supply like FUE which destroys sometimes %50 or more. (Don't think you need that now? Just wait 5 years.) 4. Bad incisions and sutures I have seen some crazy wide scars from some of these surgeons. Mine is like a pencil and has hair growing through it due to advance technique used. I'd pay more just for that. 5. HT Mill These guys have multiple patients being seen not just on the same day but all at the same time! Are you kidding me???? 6. Technicians doing majority of work Seriously? So you are giving thousands of your dollars to have some poorly trained low paid technician carve your head up? If I give thousands of dollars to a doctor to carve my head up then damn it the trained experienced doctor is the one doing it 7. Poor results that you guys think is GREAT! I have seen picture testimonials by patients of doctors in this thread who were in there 20's, had almost a full head of hair, and had 4,000 grafts placed on a thin hairline at the front. You guys commend it and think it's great because the guy now looks great with a full head of thick hair. I don't even know where to start on why that is actually absolutely horrible 8. Experience, technique, reputation, integrity, patient care, status, ect. ect. I don't want to go on forever. You guys do your own research.

Yes I know. And I personally consider Honduras to be the space flight capital of the world. Libya and Turkey are the same thing. Libya just might be a bit more moderate though :-)

In all honesty this is why I say there is such huge ignorance on this site. The reasons you listed are why he is a GREAT surgeon and the reasons why you decided for the other surgeons are why they are bad. You think there might be a reason why the expensive docs with the best reps who are teachers at USC and Colombia are conservative, don't do mega-sessions, and propose a high hairline for you? I would tell you why but some how I don't think you'd believe me. It's a shame you don't already know despite your claim of having done tons of research.... Some hints are in my thread on Dr McAndrews.

^^^ One reason I didn't go to Dr. Bernstein, but I still consider him one of the best due to his reputation and being on the forefront of new techniques/procedures.

Wow. I'm outta here. I see these forums (promoted and sometimes run by family and friends of surgeons) are geared just for the budget conscious willing to fly to far off places due to their small bank accounts. These forums are definitely not for me. ... KO you're suggesting that the Dr. was wanting a presence on some internet forum of budget-minded misinformed patients? No I think he's good with that.... Although I think it's funny you made that suggestion when several doctors (some of the same ones mentioned in this forum) have found to be operating shill sites and profiles to lure patients to their practices in Canada, India, Turkey, and others :-) I have seen the personal experiences on this site of all those doctors you mentioned and the things I see those doctors do is absolutely horrible and I would never have a HT from them even if done for free (I'd pay lots of money to keep them away from my head). The amount of misinformation and ignorance displayed on this site is staggering. Go ahead and keep thinking these charlatans are great surgeons, you'll find out in 5 years or so after your HT (if not sooner) how good they really are.

^^^ Of course not. You've only heard of doctors that spend most of their time on hair restoration network forums. After all i hear internet forums are where the real doctors are at ;-).... My nose surgeon who also is one of the best in the world has heard of Dr McAndrews, he was quite impressed and in awe that I was going to him, but maybe the Newport Beach and Los Angeles plastic surgery crowd just isn't as sophisticated as the ones in India and Turkey :-) .... Btw, I find it funny that while we are arguing a thread popped up about a guy's horrible ht in India and how in India counting grafts is "not allowed" lol.

They don't allow counting of the grafts??? What kind of bs is that? Counting of the grafts is one of the thing a surgeon needs to do to know where he's at. It's too much for this surgeon to simply count? Thin hair sucks dude. 1,000 grafts from somebody with thick dark hair can look better then 2,000 grafts from somebody with thin light hair. I'm in the same boat as you and there's not much you can do about it other than sprays and the such. BUT this is something he should have told you BEFORE the surgery not after.

Wow. I can't believe you think that. Guess I should trade in my BMW for a Ford since money means nothing. You're just wishing for a hair transplant disaster aren't you. No I couldn't have. I know, I researched. So tell me one doctor at a fraction of the cost that does the whole procedure himself instead of some medical assistant with hardly any training? I have read the experiences of every doctor that has been listed in this thread and every patient said how the doctor was just advising most the time while some assistant did the work. Tell me one doctor at a fraction of the cost that is going to reserve the whole day for you and only you and not try and oversee 10 other operations at the same time while booking more before and after you? These procedures are extremely physically and mentally demanding of the surgeon, I'll be damned if I'm going to be patient number 3 for the day. Not only is there not a budget surgeon that will reserve the whole day for you and only you, I can't even think of other big name surgeons that do this. Tell me one other surgeon at a fraction of the cost that is going through the extra time and effort to make an incision and stitch that is virtually invisible and has hair growing through it? There's a special name for the stitch that I forget but even top doctors don't bother with it let alone budget ones. Tell me one budget doctor who has such skill, technique, and knowledge that not only is he demanded to be the lead instructor at one of the most prestigious medical schools in the world but he is also the main consultant for the two biggest multi-billion pharmaceutical companies that are in the hair medicine business? You think that these cheap guys you mention are good but they are horrible based on the experiences and documentation by members of this very forum I have seen. Every doctor you mention in this thread I have seen do surgeries for 5,000, 6,000, even 7,000 or more grafts at once! My doctor won't do more then 2,500 because you are losing tons of donor hair when you do that. You seem to think killing off your donor hair unnecessarily means nothing. You think it doesnt matter when surgeons mentioned in this thread put 4,000 grafts on a tiny thin hairline of a 25yo with almost a full head of hair. My surgeon would tell you that's about the worst thing a surgeon could ever do. Your surgeons listed passionately promote FUE despite the procedure completely destroying your very limited donor hair which is why mine won't do it. I have seen the after photos of all the surgeons you listed in this very forum and you misinformed people say "My god look at how closely those grafts are packed together this guy is the best surgeon!", I look at the same pictures and say "My god look at how closely those grafts are packed together this guy is a horrible surgeon why would he ever waste the hair packing them so close!". So yeah money does mean a little bit whether you like it or not. Sorry if that disappoints those who were hoping to rub two quarters together in Tijuana to get the same results as in NYC or LA but its the truth. If you can't handle the truth that is your problem. I'm just trying to help people out.

^^^ Look I will just concede that the word "best" is a vague term that needs to be defined by the op before we can argue any answers. To someone like me "best" means who will do the absolutely best job no matter what, to someone else "best" might mean someone who does a good job but not leave them bankrupt.

^^^ I said nothing of Canada. I pointed out India and Turkey, both of which are most definitely not 1st world countries. Then again when I lived in Italy for 2 years I felt like it was a third world nation so maybe I'm just spoiled (it was even the richest part of Italy too). Despite you wanting to break this down into some argument on class warfare you have still failed to argue why the surgeons you or others in this thread mentioned deserved to be classified as the best.