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Sorry I missed the above question. Yes I noticed a significant decrease in shedding since starting Dut, but I also made some other changes to my regimen ie minox, keto shampoo every day, and I discontinued use of creatine. It's pure speculation on my part but I believe that creatine nuked my hair and brought on a big shed. It's quite possible that the introduction of Dut would be plenty to stop my shed/compensate for dht increase from creatine but the risk isn't worth the reward to me. Fin did serve me well for roughly 10 years for what it's worth

Agree with you everyone's comments. Not only this but should you pull the trigger you're probably looking at 2 procedures to match your native density

I can appreciate the policy to an extent David. Our goal should be to identify what is subjective as such, and disregard what is dishonest. With that said, why do negative comments receive scrutiny that positive comments are not subjected to? After all. it is just as likely that a shill post a dishonest negative comment trying to slander a clinic as it is that a shill FROM a clinic might post a dishonest positive comment attempting to promote a clinic. Why not make every positive poster provide photos or reveal their identity as well if negative commentators must??? I'm not a cynacle person and I do appreciate the forum for what it is as it helps to spread mostly ttruth pertaining to patient experiences and educate those who are searching for answers. My take away, however, from this whole exchange is that this forum puts a much greater emphasis on protecting doctors versus truly allowing patients to make an informed decision. Obviously a negative comment can be detrimental to a clinic's business. To me what's more important though is that a perpetual stream of dishonest positive comments can perhaps harm a patient not to mention negative comments which are swept under the rug due to some double standard in fact checking. There are many many valid reasons as to why a patient wouldn't want to disclose a photo or their identity specific to a hair transplant whether the outcome be good or bad. This post at this point has nothing to do with my personal and real experience as a HT patient or Dr. Umar's clinic. The policy is unfair, one sided, and looks out for clinics and not patients.

Minoxidil! Also, get on a dht blocker if you aren't. Regrowtth is very difficult but maintenance is achievable for most

Interesting swoop. Thanks for the reply. Do you believe that for those willing to experiment with the non fda approved/non big 3 that ru is the best place to start/most effective of the bunch?

@swoop - my logical mind tells me youre probably correct, but do you know of any studies showing dht reduction when oral are taken in conjunction with topical? Even anything anecdotal would be interesting.

Good post spank. This is especially imp for young guys. Salesman present fin as the silver bullet to young guys pondering HTs (myself included who fell for it hook line and sinker) when in reality everyone responds differently. Some may halt altogether but it seems like the majority are just buying some time or decelerating loss. I also think the debate on receptor upregulation on fin/Dut has not been settled. When I originally saw your title I actually thought this post was abou generic fin. Out of curiosity, does dr. K have a strong opinion about generic fin? I'm also curious as to what his thoughts are on topical fin as I've seen some or his local competitors begin to promote it. I wonder if oral in conjunction w topical is worth a damn, but if I know dr k he won't speculate and will instead defer to proven science to which there is little to none on the topic I believe.

Beautiful result. I'm assuming purely head hair donor?

Maybe you can try some topical finasteride or some RU in addition to the minox

You might want to try dutasteride.

Good luck arrek. Like the previous poster said I would mask that scar before I touched the crown. Maybe it's difficult tho given that your donor is thin and you couldn't exactly add enough density on your scar to cover it up to match your donor. Dr B is very skilled...all the best to you.

I'm a week into my stemoxydine experiment. I will let you know how it goes.

I had been on fin for around 10 years, and switch Over to Dut 3 months ago. I have been side effect free and even experienced a libido bump for what it's worth.

You could try dutasteride. Which body building supplement do you believe thinned your hair?

I've read multiple papers on the subject, but it seems like the concensus is that (dense) packing beyond 50percm is potentially reckless due to risks that arise when doing so. Also, depending on hair characteristics, for the average person 50percm is considered the density at which an individual attains the aesthetic appearance of a full head of hair as the previous poster stated. Also, it seems like a lot of the time those seeking out 50percm require a second pass.

Check out the search function and type in "Colorado." I don't recall your doc being mentioned but I do recall reading about the clinic and many dissatisfied patients. I would also search 'scar revision." In the mean time I would grow your hair out like vox said .

Someone needs to put together a class action lawsuit. So many patients harmed by these guys. OP, If I'm you, I seek out a scar revision and then perhaps FUE into your scar.

Is the newly thinning area close to the area where grafts were implanted? Temporary shock loss is not uncommon if so. Pictures would be helpful

Nice result here. Were additional grafts harvested via traditional donor or was this strictly a redistribution of his existing previously harvested grafts?

Hi badjeans, Things aren't as bad as you think. Your density is terrific and you're aware of your hairloss and not in denial. Get on some meds. Finasteride or dutasteride is your best bet. If maintaining your hair is important to you, I wouldn't get talked out of these medications if I were you unless you try them and develop severe side effects (rare). In a few years your friends will be losing hair and you'll maybe be right where you are or even in better shape than you are at this moment while they are scrambling for solutions. Whatever you do, don't get a HT at this point even if someone were to pay you to do it. Let your hairloss stabilize first and then reasses at the very earliest a few years after college / into mid to late 20's or early 30's preferably. Best of luck to you.

Speaking of Konior he has a couple results with hairline restoration and hair pieces in the crown. That could be another option

Looking great squatch! Happy for you

Once a day, not twice?

Maybe, but probably not. Ask some docs what kind of density they can achieve/would recommend. 50 grafts per centimeter is pretty well recognized as full density.