Baldybee2

Yes I agree that hair restoration cannot give you back your full density. Usually at best is 45 percent density And that is with 2 procedures.

I've seen of dr diep YouTube vids. I hope he can show more of the back donor area on his future vids.

Yes I agree the top docs produce good results. Who are these top doctors? We all need to do the research to find these top doctors. But you got to admit pictures do not depict real life as we know this industry with before and pictures with the angles And lighting often show a thick full set of hair which causes people who have hair transplant to be disappointed. We need to educate people and have them understand hair transplant do not give density. All I'm saying is some hairlines look natural and some don't. And some before and after pictures look great but in real life that is not the case.

I agree that some hairlines don't look natural. However, some do look natural as well. I do think the pictures we see posted by doctors don't really depict what you would see in real life. Pictures are altered and sometimes had Photoshop done. I know because all HT look thin. I seen before and after pictures stating norwood 6 with 2300 grafts done and the picture show a full set of hair. It's just amazing that when you stop and actually think about it, it's just no way. Any hair transplant doctor can tell you that you be lucky to achieve 20 percent density on your first hair transplant; hence, thin look. Nothing like the pictures or commercial or YouTube vids show.

You can shampoo everyday or twice a day if you need. Shampoo has nothing to do with hair loss. With that said, you can certainly wash your hair every 3 days but keep in mind there will be more hairs in the drain. Hair loss is from dht. It's from your genes. It's not from washing your hair too often.

Thanks, Mickey, for the great detailed response!

On your first picture is that before your HT#1? If yes, where were the grafts placed?

There was a myth about if you wear a hat too tight or if you always wear hats, that its bad for your hair and you will go bald. Hence, its a myth. Same thing with Toppik or Dermmatch, Doctors say it does not cause hair loss and it's safe to use. Hair loss is cause by DHT.

Thanks for the update! Did the Dr tell you what density he transplanted you at? 25cm or 35cm sq? Your hair looks to be filling in nicely. Also did the Dr say you will need a second HT for density or did he mention anything about future loss in other native hairs that you will most likely need another HT?

I've seen 2000 grafts in some cases of minor hair loss to produce an ok result but when I see Norwood 4 with 4000 grafts with the picture showing amazing and great results I just don't know. In person if we see this patient it has to be a thin look right? 4000 grafts for Norwood 4?

This look great! But is this just pictures taken at the right angle and right lighting? Or can we expect a Norwood 4 with 4000 grafts to produce this result? To all that know about math and density what would you say the density is for 4000 grafts for this Norwood 4 patient? 40cm??

Mickey, great message. I saw that you mention avg person having like 5000 to 6000 grafts of donor hair. Does this apply to fue? Just wondering how many grafts an avg person can get doing fue without it looking moth eaten.

I've been told that toppik is safe to use. Also dermmatch but I never heard of these causing hair loss or anything. I know a lot of people using these items for years and they all told me their doctors said there is no harm

Yes I guess it all depends on your hairloss pattern and how thick your hair is. I'm not sure if I will go the smp route or the ht route. It will all depend on my final balding pattern. Right now the pattern I have is front corners miniturization. I could easy have enough hair to do fill it in. But I don't want two horns if I end up losing more hairs and having to chase hair loss. Hopefully as you get older hair loss stablizes. The key is what is the perfect age for hair loss to stable to get a cosmetic procedure either smp or ht. The choice is not easy on which procedure. HT is very risky because with limited donor. And smp, with all the research I been doing I get the feel that it just looks too fake. The dots I see in the pictures are too big and some dots are not even circular but rather oval like. And these hairlines 8 out of 10 are just fake looking. So one week I'm thinking smp for me and the next week I feeling ht. Not an easy decision by any means. And I'm especially cautious from reading these board messages that people didn't like smp and these very same clinics are now doing smp and changing their tunes. Very interesting to say the least.

Jimmy did the doc tell you that you might need another transplant in the future and if so how much grafts can you get out of another fue procedure?