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Hah I am going on 5-th of January When are you? I will upload some pictures soon but please consider that in order to have optimal growth there are many factors involved not only the doctor. I think you have made a great decision in choosing Dr. Demirsoy.

Hi guys, sorry for not posting in so much time. I am back now Anyways an update: Well I had my amazing time with my new hair That's right BUT after a year the rest of my hair started to fall out so I am back to square one. Also my transplanted hair did not exactly yield an optimal result. I don't know the cause of that but I did write up to Dr. Demirsoy and he also agreed with me on this one. So I am going back in January to fill in that area again (I want to gain more density). I am going with Dr. Demirsoy again.

Hi Yonex Here are some additional pictures: Even if I did take pictures from the top my hair is a little long so I am afraid nothing will be visible. Anyways my flaky skin is from Minox. and I can't seem to get rid of it. It dries my hair and after that big portions of skin falls off. I am still using Minx and Biotin.

Hi Wibbles and Jessop, thank you guys. So no scar - no pain on the donor. Healed amazingly. You can't notice it, even if I cut my hair very short. For you guys I will take some more photos today and upload them. Thank you

Hello guys, I am very sorry for the late reply. Please next time just message me or remind me about updates and I will put them immediately. I am 7 months in and I am hoping for a better grow. Especially in the front area. There the situation is still very sparse but I still have a couple of months to go

again a great job by Dr. Demirsoy

OK guys Good news. I can see hair growing Even though it is a little early I can see a lot small dots growing (not one, not two but a lot ) So happy I can't wait month 3

Hi imnothere I think its going pretty good. It only can get better from here. I saw one patient that was very late with his growing phase (a late bloomer) and I think you are also like that. But it will grow that's for sure. I am Dr. Demirsoys patient also and I am in my 2-nd month, so keep us posted. I think its good so far.

Update: So as you can see I am shedding I can see some small black dots that give me hope Anyways I have minox on my head so the hair is shiny. Also I found out that my skin pealing is form the minoxidil maybe a side effect. That happened because i was using too much of it. I think I went through one bottle in just 2 weeks, so I think that was the reason. Now I've got it under control (I think) we'll see

of course Jessop ... Now I am in the phase where all transplanted hair falls off. The root stays but the hair falls and after that it starts growing... Can't wait for the growing part

Fully grown cases... I think there are people in their 5 or 6-th month mark. Looks very good. Also when I was at the clinic, Muzaffer showed me a lot of results like the ones you are searching. Full grown from years back, but those photos are never published. You can see them only in the doctors office. I intend to keep and update this thread until people would like me to. I will take one photo every week and post it here. Anyway Jessop if you are considering Dr. Demirsoy why not write email to their office?

13-14 for sure including mine... + there are more from Germany

Hi Matt, good to have you here. I can say that you are on the right track. Please feel free to google Dr. Demirsoy and you will see a lot of results. I can send you 10-15 links from this forum and additional more from one german forum that has a lot of threads about Dr. Erkan and his results. Please feel free to write on: info@armamed.com.tr The doctors clinic is called Armamed - web site is under construction, but please do write on the official email. You will see how nice and genuine are the people working there.

Thank YOU cloudy, for all the support and messages through the past few months. I really really appreciate it. Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy said "HELLO" to you

OK guys, as a part of full experience I am sharing with you hair that shed Working with the chopsticks to place them right I got an idea that I can be a surgeon (just kidding) So I think this should represent a normally shed hair after FUE procedure: What do you think? Updates on my hair will come tomorrow or monday...

imnothere is right, there is one other forum with over 15-20 results. I don't think we can share it here but feel free to message me for links.

Well we talked with the doctor and from my family tree we usually tend to lose hair from the sides. The hair on the center it stays. I have never used anything to stop the hair loss process but now I started using Minoxidil and I was also advised to apply it on the center area. If for some reason down the road I need 2-nd transplant I am up for it. Anyways I am hoping for a good density so that I can style my hair like I did before.

3 weeks post-op OK guys so I just entered my 4-th week post-op. This is when I am starting to use Minoxidil 5% and already been using Biotin for some time. Shedding has kicked in already but it is not so intense. While massaging my Minoxidil lotion I saw 5-6 hairs that shed. This is the current situation

joeshmo209: I'm Dr. Demirsoy patient. Even though we don't do a hair count, I can say that mostly I've had 2 hairs at a graft (take this something as average). For now my situation is great. I will post updates on my thread. Anyways I have seen that Dr. Demirsoys patients (if they follow closely on the dr's instruction) the yield is around 90% even more than that. For me seeing everything right now (3-rd week post-op) every single implanted hair has started feeding and growing. But as I discussed with the dr. the performance will be seeing after minimum of 3-4 months. In the upcoming months (after 3-4 up until year) hair will continually grow. I've seen results from Dr. Demirsoy and please do contact them for any question you might have. I can promise you they will answer every single question you have.

No I don't have the hair count.

Day 18: Update

Hi joemann the price is 1 euro for 1 graft, So the total fee for the procedure is 2708 EUR.

DenseDream: I am glad you are picking Dr. Demirsoy too. In one day the doctor operates only one patient. He dedicates his whole time to that patient only. Yes there are hotels in near by. I think it is best to contact Muzaffer so that he can suggest hotels where there are other FUE patients. As I mentioned in my post I wasn't in FUE friendly hotel so do not make the same mistake as I did Please contact Muzaffer for additional information. David: Thank you for the support. All: If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask me here, or in personal message... Thank you

Before and post op images:

Intro to pre-op situation I’m 26 old male that has a hair loss problem since I was 20 years old. My hair loss is genetic. My male part of the family has it. Usually we bald from the temples and to be more descriptive we are 3A on the Norwood scale. This begun to be a problem for me in the last couple of years. All around my head I have had a thick set of hair but in front there was very little of it. So this motivated me to seek help/advice online. After finding this forum I decided to go through all possible solutions offered here. But anyways after some time of reading I was drawn to FUE as a more permanent and natural solution, so I started browsing different doctors and seeing different results. So this is a big thank you to all members who stepped forward and shared their results and experiences with us. I concluded very fast that right now Turkey is a hot spot for FUE procedures so I advanced to the next stage to find my doctor. After intensive reading and searching I came across 3 FUE doctors that are mostly mentioned here. All 3 have great results BUT I decided to go with Dr. Erkan Demirsoy. My decision was motivated by an excellent result that the doctor had with one German patient that had similar hair loss to mine and a similar graft count. So I decided to get in touch with Dr. Demirsoys office. I sent email and the very next day I got a response from Dr. Demirsoys assistant Muzaffer. Here I have to mention that you can write email to the official email address left on the web site. The email is checked every day and you will get a very fast answer. That happened to me. I think already the next day I got message from Muzaffer. So I will try to sum up our email conversation into couple of lines. So first off we started with some general information about the cost of the procedure. Than I send pictures from my current status. After that I got email and this time the doctor was interested in my family hair loss profile, so we went in deep with that. From here I was able to conclude how interested the doctor is in his patients. He will always ask you about your family profile and explain if what you are asking is realistic, but later on that. I had a lot of questions for Muzaffer and he managed to answer all of them which was very affirming that Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy are very professional and carrying persons. So after exchanging bunch of email letters, and seeing the results from Dr. Demirsoy I was convinced that there is no better doctor that can take care of my hair loss situation. Later as you will see, I was right. Muzaffer took care of my transportation from bus station, hotel and hospital. A deposit of 500 EUR was payed through Western Union so that I can reserve the date for the procedure. So let’s sum up the financial part up until here: 50 EUR return bus ticket, 140 EUR transportation (bus station, hotel, hospital… - you can take care of the transportation yourself if you want, I chose to go with Muzaffers offer and it was more than a good offer) 500 EUR Deposit for date reservation Day 1 (Sunday) I arrived at the bus station in Istanbul. My bus was 1.5 hours late but still I kept in communication with Muzaffer through SMS messages and as agreed the driver was waiting me on the bus station. I wanted to come a day early so that I can see the city before the procedure, and take some rest from the road. Istanbul is one of the most beautiful cities out there, so take your time and see everything there is to be seen in this magnificent city - before the procedure. I have to write at least a line about the hotel I was staying in, so that you don’t make any mistakes that I made. The hotel was great but it was far away from the doctors office. Anyways the only thing that bothered me is that in my hotel (that I booked via booking.com) did not have any FUE patients. So that made me a little uncomfortable around the people there. So please do ask Muzaffer or any other official person from Armamed to recommend a FUE friendly hotel. Do not book like I did without doing the research. Also it would have been nice to have a FUE friend like me there, but I didn’t had that so please do a research before booking. Day 2 (Monday – day of procedure) The day started very early at around 6:15 Istanbul time. I finally get to meet Muzaffer in person. He was standing in front of my hotel waiting for me to come down. There is no way to describe Muzaffer in one paragraph or even couple of pages of this review. This guy was the most awesome, nice, professional, kind, knowledgeable person that loves his job. He speaks Turkish, German and English fluently so you will have no problem with communication. He took care of everything. So this is a very big thank you to Muzaffer. We drove to the hospital and that is where I had the pleasure to meet Dr. Demirsoy. While waiting I had lunch and a very informative talk with Muzaffer. The doctor came, we talked a little bit and me and Muzaffer went into the office to get me ready for the procedure. Before everything started, Muzaffer showed additional images form their patients (that were not published online), talked a little bit more, and I had to sign the agreement (pretty usual stuff, that you will sign before any medical procedure) which Im not going to explain here-if you are interested you can read it yourself. After that the doctor came and we started to talk about graft count, density, and most importantly the new hair line. So I have seen results from Dr. Demirsoy and I just left all up to him. He asked me about the hair line, but I had 100% confidence in this doctor that I left him to design and draw it. It was perfect, I accepted it immediately, and we were good to go. The staff there was also awesome. I changed my clothes (please wear something comfortable because you will be laying there for 6-7 hours – give or take depending on the graft count). After changing, the nurses shaved my head and everything was ready. The first step is the extraction process from donor area. This step is done by Dr. Demirsoy himself. Now I have to write a line or two about the anesthetic. It wasn’t painful. Maybe the first one, but not the others. After the anesthetic kicked in the doctor started the extraction. What can I say, he was very careful, making sure that he used the right angle and what not. He would usually do couple of punches and if needed recalculated parameters so that he don’t hurt any graft and extract the right grafts perfectly. It was amazing. It was done very professional with a lot of care. I didn’t feel anything, in fact I was even able to sleep . The extraction of the grafts took couple of hours. After that was done we made a little break. I was offered to eat and the doctor and the team did the same also. In this situation I would suggest to try something traditional. After 30 minutes of break, we continued. I was extracted 2708 grafts. Most of them were having 2, 3 hair strands. We agreed that this was a good number. The second step is making holes for the grafts to be implanted. Again Dr. Demirsoy did the holes. Again he was working very carefully – meaning that he was thinking the angle, position and the depth of the graft. This step took around 1.5 hours. In order to not feel anything anesthetics were injected in my recipient area. The first one hurt a little. After the holes were made it was time to implant the new grafts. This procedure was done by the trained nurses. When I asked about them, the doctor and Muzaffer told me that they had around 15 years of experience in this area, so I was very comfortable. One nurse did my left side and the other did the right side. Since the holes were already made all they did is just put in the grafts. I have to say that I was very satisfied how Dr. Demirsoy placed the holes. It looked very natural. This step took more than 2 hours. While working I started feeling some pain, so additional dosage of anesthetics were injected. After that the nurses continued to work without any problem. They were very nice and friendly. They don’t speak English but we were able to communicate through Muzaffer, who was present throughout the whole procedure. After they finished the work I was able to get up and see the current result. I had a swelling but that was normal and expected. So here are the rules about the swelling: You will wear a bandage when you leave the hospital the first day. On the second you will be given bandage like accessory to wear under the swelling areas. YOU HAVE to wear it in the next 2-3 days, otherwise your swelling will come down to your face and eyes and it will be very unpleasant. After the informative talk I was ready to go in my hotel. Oh and I have to say that you will pay for the transportation and operation on this day (day of the procedure). If you pay cash you will pay the amount of implanted grafts. If you pay with credit card you will have to pay tax also (it was around 20% or 28% I don’t remember). So I was transported back to my hotel by Muzaffer. Day 3 (first day after procedure – washing day) OK so the next day you are picked again from the hotel. This is the day when the bandage comes off and the first wash is performed by Dr. Demirsoys staff. This is a MUST. You cannot leave the city before the first wash. After the first wash you will be able to go home. Again we went to the hospital and the bandage came off. The nurse washed my hair, and we talked a little bit about the outcome. I have to say that I didn’t feel any pain the previous day when I was in the hotel, but just in case you will be given antibiotics and pain killers that you can use in case you feel some pain. Well I didn’t and I used only the antibiotics. After the hair wash you are good to go home. But before that the doctor took some pictures and burned them to CD. We talked for a while and he did a close inspection of the donor and recipient area. There is one thing that I have to mention that happen to me after the first day. I got sick to my stomach from the antibiotics. I have to say that this a common side effect. So I felt sick 10 minutes after I took the antibiotics. I told this to the doctor and instead of antibiotics he gave me antiseptic cream and antibiotic cream to put on my recipient area, which worked very well. Day 4 (first day after the hair wash) So after the hair wash you are able to go home. The doctor will give you information about how to treat the donor and recipient area. So from now on you have to moisturize and wash with special shampoo that you will receive from the doctor’s office. Any questions that you might have can be answered by his assistant Muzaffer. Even though Muzaffer is not included into the procedure (he is Dr. Demirsoys assistant, that does everything but the procedure) he has amazing knowledge about HT procedures. So we are talking about a person who knows his job, and loves his job very much. It is always a pleasure to talk to Muzaffer, since it felt like talking to a close friend most of the time. On this day I tried to wash my hair for the very first time. As per usual I’m no good in situations like this. I was very much afraid that I did something wrong. So I messaged Muzzafer about my situation and he agreed once again to help me. This is when I decided to stay in Istanbul until I’m sure that the grafts are secured to my head. Muzaffer and the doctor told me right away that I can stay in Istanbul and they will help me with my everyday hair wash. It was awesome. So I decided to stay. So from day 4 to day 8 I was in the hospital every day (except for Sunday) where the hair wash was performed. In a meanwhile I got to know better Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy. They are amazing people to be around. Very genuine, honest and just good people who cares about their patients very much. You will feel like you are a VIP person. I’ve been all over Europe and I have never had a treatment like this. I even got the chance to meet 2 of the doctors good friends. They told me a lot about him, everything nice, how good he is at what he is doing. While waiting I also had the chance to meet some new clients who were in Armamed for evaluation and consultation with the doctor. Day 8 (scab removing) The basic rule is that after 7 days hairs are firmly secured. Another rule is that if you see a bleeding from some grafts chances are you have pulled them out, if not there is no reason to panic. So up until day 7 you have to take a good care for the grafts. So on day 9 I was able to remove it. Again the instructions says that after day 6-7 you will moisturize the recipient area on every 2-3 hours. This makes the scabs soft and ready to be removed. So on day 8 the nurse managed to take off my scabs. For the first time I can see how my head and hair looked like without scabs and dark places. The redness was present but because of my skin tone, it wasn’t very visible. This is the last day that I saw Muzaffer and Dr. Demirsoy. After that we said our goodbyes and promised to stay in touch. I cannot stress enough how thankful I am to those people. I am glad I chose Armamed and Dr. Demirsoy to perform the procedure. Now for all those who want to contact me, please do that. I will be checking all my messages and posts on this thread. I will do anything in my power to help you guys who seek advice on this topic. I will promote Dr. Demirsoy work everywhere because he genualy deserves it. Also this is a request to some of the admins here to try and check this doctor's offices and work to make sure he is the best that Turkey can offer. So this is a shout out to the admins here to think about recognizing and promote Dr. Demirsoys work here. Thank You all. P.S I will attache images from pre-op and post-op in next post.