Redchilli007

Hi NewLook I had 5000 grafts with Dr Erdogan last April and I can't see the problem with that kind of Mega session. 2500 grafts were placed along the hairline 1st day and the mid scalp and crown were covered on the 2nd day. I've had good regrowth I believe and I don't think a 2 day mega session with Dr Erdogan would effect yield than say a one day session as he is very careful with what his assistants do, I mean they are very thorough and he watches everything. When I paid for my HT at the clinic they insisted I paid in cash to avoid getting an extra charge with a credit card payment would induce. I paid 12,500 in total for my HT. I paid a 1000 deposit via bank transfer to book my HT dates. The rest I brought in cash. It was a little worrying carry so much money on a trip like that but here are a few tips and things I did to make it as safe as possible. Once I had the money ready in the bank and my dates set with Dr Erdogan I notifed my bank of a deposit date I wished to withdraw the money. I was flying out late on a tuesday night so I collected it from the bank that morning, this meant I avoided having a big sum of money in the house prior days to the trip. The bank vacum packed it nicely for me. I bought a money belt on ebay and placed it under my Jeans when travelling through customs etc. I took it off at the scanners but I was never asked about it at the airport. Once I got to Turkey Dr Erdogan organises a driver to collect you and drop you to the hotel, I arrived late Tuesday night. Wednesday morning Dr Korays assistant called me and I went for my consultation with Dr Koray and head shave and I made the payment at this time. It meant as little time as possible from travelling from Ireland to Turkey did I have the cash prone to theft or loss. I hope some of this helps you mkae your decision.

Just for the record its great to see drkaradeniz so active in this thread and explaining his decision. Like I said in my first post, the docotrs honesty and well meaning is not up for question, he is above reproach here. I have my own set standards on what I think warrants a reccomendation. I'm talking pure FUE results and strip is not in my equation when I gave my answer but I feel I know enough about it to give an honest opinion. My standards are not everyone eles's and this reccomendation doesn't hang on me so remember that. Having a HT is no joke, its a massive financial, emotional and physical commitment. You can only do this 2-3 times in your life if your lucky enough to afford it and the first HT is vital. You get it wrong and you are ruined. You get subpar results and you are also in trouble. I'm not accusing drkaradeniz of any of that, far from it, but these are my standards and things I keep in mind when making a decision. I take it very very seriously.

As 1966kph correctly said this not what I was saying at all. If you'd bothered to read my post you'd see I said I have no problem with people going for strip or the results Dr's can get from it I said its not my preference to end up with a head scar when your trying to improve your image. If you did read my post and still came back with that reply it shows you had no interested in a reasonable discussion and only want to straw man an argument based on something I did'nt say. Maybe your upset I didn't have all positives to say from the start. Either way its a poor amd immature posting method from a so called senior member. Please don't twist my words in future.

Personally that's where I stand on strip work but I don't have a problem with people admiring the results and opting for strip and I am not saying it doesn't get results but for me times have moved on and FUE is the only procedure I would go for. The idea of have having a strip of flesh removed and a scar on the back of your head which limits your hair options back there is counter productive to me when you are spending all this money to improve your image. I looked at the images carefully before giving my opinion and have done so again. Its just my opinion but I would not seek out this DR if I wanted a HT and I'd recommend many Dr's before this Dr if giving a friend advise. I can't say otherwise or I'd be lying to myself.

Personally that's where I stand on strip work but I don't have a problem with people admiring the results and opting for strip and I am not saying it doesn't get results but for me times have moved on and FUE is the only procedure I would go for. The idea of have having a strip of flesh removed and a scar on the back of your head which limits your hair options back there is counter productive to me when you are spending all this money to improve your image. I looked at the images carefully before giving my opinion and have done so again. Its just my opinion but I would not seek out this DR if I wanted a HT and I'd recommend many Dr's before this Dr if giving a friend advise. I can't say otherwise or I'd be lying to myself.

If I'm honest I would not go to this Dr based on those photos. There is a lack of density and thinning/see through look on most of those results. He just can't seem to get the same successful growth rate of his two other Turkish compatriots. Also strip work is a big no no for me. Its difficult to be negative about someone as I'm sure the Dr is ethical and hardworking but we must keep standards high and his results fall short for me.

Thanks for the update Yaz. Its great to see you doing well and restored to your former glory Not having hairloss as a worry anymore must be great. Sometimes people don't understand what a constant worry it is and how it can get you down. I'm at the 7 month 2 week mark and happy with my result. I've been trying out many different styles etc and looking forward to months of further growth and thickening based on your pos Yaz @ acegik, I had exactly 5000 grafts also. 2500 in the front and the rest in midline and scalp. I'm not on any fin minox but happy with results. I must make a thread about my op and post some pictures but I think people have different growth levels depending on age and health and some other mysterious factors I wore a cap for a long time in work after the op but I have been comfortable with my result and grew out my hair and took of the cap since about the 4.5 month mark. If you are worried about slow growth just bear in mind what Yaz and many others here say and that that the 18month timescale is what we think will be your full final HT result so acegik you are only 1/3 of the way along in your journey. I wish you good growth and all my hairloss bros good growth and a future free from hairloss worries

Hi Yaz Hows it going? Have you any progress pics for us? You stated at the 9 month mark that you would update us at the 12 months mark and again at the 18 month mark. We are overdue that 12 month update Have things improved, has hair thickened and increased? We are all very interested to know. Don't leave us hanging Yaz. Your days of hair worry might be over but we need news

Hi Denny Any updates for us?

Thats a very good price but I'm not convinced by Dr Maral His results are hit and miss This guy had 4000 grafts with Dr Maral and didn't look great, the vertex grafts didn't seem to survive at all. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174447-4000-fue-grafts-dr-maral.html

Thats a very good price but I'm not convinced by Dr Maral His results are hit and miss This guy had 4000 grafts with Dr Maral and didn't look great, the vertex grafts didn't seem to survive at all. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/174447-4000-fue-grafts-dr-maral.html

Dr. Koray may only do incisions but drops in on all parts of the surgery to make sure its been done right. All the nurses are trained in his technique. Dr. Maral is five times cheaper? How much does he charge per graft. Korays price is 2.5 euro per graft. Hakan is more hands on I believe. A couple of guys that had some work done with him recently started threads, maybe its better to ask there.

Thnaks for the reply David. I wasn't implying you thought Dutchs relpy had no place here because it was critical of the forum. I am fully aware that your happy and willing to let people have their say no matter how critical it may be. There is no problem in that aspect and I would never say otherwise. I just said I was also suprised by your response as it was addressing what Dutch said and not t he overwhelming feeling of the Drs work on the thread. I understand it was the strong words he used in terms of the Dr getting approved which was causing a response. There were some strong words from Dutch but we are all aware of the process of a Dr getting his up for consideration thread where we all chime in with our opinion. I didn't see the Drs thread but would be interested to look now because how his work was firstly deemed good enough to be put to the vote and secondly how it passed the vote is a mystery to me given what work I have seen of his. I don't agree by Dutches 10k and your in statement but Like I said yesterday the results are poor. Those with high norwood levels threated by the Dr seem to have the worst resutls with only sparse hair with no density to show for it. Other who had a good amount of native hair beore the HT don't look amazing either, in fact they look like before and after pis of a 12month fin and minox treatment. This forum is a great place and the majority of approved Drs are great and very skiled at their work. The mods and posters on here are very informed and helpful, this site helped me find Dr Koray for my procedure and I thank you for that but we must have the highest standards. Preforming a HT is a skill few posses, the extraction and placement of native hair else where to give the illusion of denisty is almost an art form. Whatever Dr. Quatela does during placement of grafts or the extraction phase means grafts are not surviving and those that are are too closely packed and the results are poor. Looking through the thread you can see the response to his work. Looking at some of Dr. Quatela's other threads that fact his has copy and paste response he uses over and over again to negative responses to his work seems to tell me he doesn't care that much or thinks he is above criticism. In my book he is shady. I can only say what I think and that is it. Like I said this site is a great place for information and help. I guess with that many Dr, patients and posters coming through every now and again something that shouldn't of happened will happen, its the law of averages. As much as the patient was responsible for not looking around for other options, because many of us would not have gone near Dr. Quatelabased on his results, he still is recommended on here. The reality of the situation is a poster/patient was let down by the site by trusting a Dr approved on here and had a very bad HT with many grafte lost and a bad life experience that he will find it hard to recover from in terms of getting his hair back.

I am quite suprised by your response here also. Dutch is entitled to voice his opinions and his falls in line with that of the majorty on this thread, my own, and that is the opinion that Dr's work in question is sub par. Dutch may have missed the recommendation thread and I'm also taken back at how the Dr is approved here. Yes we are asked to rate the work but had I seen those results i would have given the opposite of a thumbs up. Why those results were put to a vote honestly is beyond me. I am not trying to start arguments here but if not here then where do we express concerns about what we view to be poor work. I know he is recommmended by the site and its a little bit of red face time but we as posters and paying customers owe it to ourselves to be honest first and foremost not matter who is affected by that honesty. Even so Bill a poor smaller session is still a poor session. I have looked through the Drs own webstie and some of those results are genuinely breathtaking, for all the wrong reasons. Some of the photos are from not so small sessions, there is one from 3700+ and it looks like only hundreds of the hairs grew. Some of the patients are left with an unatural and pluggy look and come out looking worse than they went in. Like I said above I am not trying to be controverial here and start fights but Dutch is right, its an ink stain on the copy book of this site for me too. We have a thread here with a patient who went to a Dr partially because of proximity convieniance and this sites recommendation. Both he and the site are in the equation, my honest feeling is the patient would have been better off warned about the poor results rather than gotten encouragement about the local Dr from the site. The majority of the fault lies with the patient for not doing his own due dilligance but the sites part cannot be ignored. I do welcome your call for more pictures from this Dr but the damage has been done imo. Are we going to get the 7 best HTs this doc has done when there is muh more evidence of poor work? Anyway I'd be amazed if Dr. Quatela can turn around peoples opinons if he decides to post 7 results. I'll put it another way, if I was sat down with a friend who wanted to have a HT and was looking for advice from me I would show him Dr. Quatelas work of an example of bad work and a Dr to avoid. As painful as that might be to hear its the truth from me. The results are simply not good enough and I would tell people to avoid his clinic.

Nearly all of my transplanted hair has shed. Today is exactly the two months to the day for me (8 weeks) since my HT The next few months things will slowly begin to happen, I hope. Time has flown as i have been very busy since with work since the HT. I was back in work 5 days after it