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Just to clarify, do members have the ability to delete posts on the forum? Or is this a privilege that you only give Doctors who pay this website's membership fee?

Perhaps it would better serve the community if you would act as a patient advocate more frequently instead of repeatedly finding excuses as to why procedures fail. Hopefully you do not take the feedback to heart but instead try to think and behave in a manner that is more balanced, fair and educated. Under no circumstances is this result acceptable and that shouldn’t even be implied by someone who should be looking out for patients and providing them with guidance and genuine/honest feedback. I enjoy providing feedback and guidance to those whom I can support. I fail to see the logic in you asking me to leave just because I provide you with direct feedback. At the end of the day, you should be supporting and encouraging members who help others and provide an honest and unbiased perspective to the community. This community is not about you; it is about helping others make well-informed and educated decision. You should encourage support for members and hair loss sufferers who need guidance. Fret not, I will continue to contribute.

Here is a good example of what 2500 grafts can do for a Norwood 6 with a lot of area to cover:

I am not an undercover representative for any clinic and I find it unethical, dishonest and uneducated to bring up hypotheticals and accusations based on thin air in order to only defend a clinic that is supporting your website financially. Perhaps it would be more ethical and in order to stand behind the patient in this case instead of trying to digress away from this poor result. When an elite surgeon takes on a difficult case, it is of high importance that he educates the patient and explains what can and cannot be done via surgery. Setting realistic expectations is crucial; it is the duty of any ethical and caring Doctor to have his patients best interests in mind. When the patient understands realistic expectations, he is free to make a well-informed decision that will affect him for the rest of his life. Expectations were not set here, as indicated by the patient himself. Doesn't this concern you? This was even indicated by the patient himself. As a moderator, you should be focusing on helping ensure that this doesn't happen in the future instead of accusing those who actually bring up valid points to ensure that the industry progresses. I would also like to highlight that it is an ethical obligation to turn down a case where the clinic feels that an expected result cannot meet the patient's expectations. How could the patient possibly know what to expect when the clinic didn't even go over realistic expectations with the patient? It was highlighted by one of the representatives that the patient had a lot of area to cover, which seems to imply that this result is what the patient should be expecting. So if this is the type of result that Bhatti can deliver on a case like this, why on earth wasn't this explained to the patient beforehand? Why accept the patient's money and perform surgery that will cause a lot of difficulties and hardship for the patient long-term? To be perfectly clear, 2,500 grafts it a lot of hair, which should result in a nice hairline and somewhat thin frontal third. This result is far from it.

Out of curiosity, have you considered any other surgeons besides the ones mentioned? Perhaps Dr. Konior, Drs. Ron and Paul Shapiro, or Dr. Gabel? Also, you may consider really studying and viewing multiple consistent results from robotic FUE before committing to a procedure. You are not in a rush, so I advise you to take a step back and really do your research and meet with more surgeons in person.

I believe that is the case for Dr. Rahal, but not for H&W. But do check with the clinics, as pricing policy may have changed in the respective clinics.

If I were in this position myself, I would be concentrating on finding a clinic in which the surgeon is involved and participating in the entire procedure, including some graft extraction. These are the most consistent results in my opinion, when led by a top-tier Doctor who is the absolute best at what he or she does. Doctor Konior, Dr. Gable, Dr. Ron Shapiro, to name a few excellent HT surgeons. On a different note, it's useful that you are sharing your results, as this may deter some people away from going to a tech-driven clinic down the line. Having a hair transplant is a permanent modification to your appearance, so it is a decision that must be made with diligence. Good luck, and I hope you get it sorted to your satisfaction. Cheers.

I would also like a clarification as to whether recommended surgeons are obligated to post on a monthly basis and how this is enforced.

@Bill - Managing Publisher How many patients per day may a recommended Doctor be in charge of and perform hair transplants on, according to the high standards of the hair restoration network before quality control and results may be affected?

If stress is causing the shed, why is only his transplanted hair falling out? Also, do sheds caused by stress typically last longer than 6 months?

What are those different standards?

Only 10 more than Asmed, Dr Erdogan. 😂

I agree with you but I think it's also important to point out that many patients who fall prey are so deeply caught up in the anxiety loop and discomfort coming from their hair loss. As a result they fail to notice all the warning signs and read flags. There is perhaps also an expectation of trustworthiness and honesty that many of us have for doctors (in general) so some patients may be more inclined to make more spontaneous, drastic and careless decisions when the advice and recommendation is coming from a... you guessed it, a doctor. Sure, blind ignorance plays a big role in it too, especially considering that we aren't talking about purchasing a television here, it is a permanent modification to your appearance and if done poorly the decision may impact the patient significantly for a very long time after the surgery. Yet so many fail to think down these lines.

CosmoKramer, that is really funny. 😁 The sad part with it is that for every person who does his research and really understands the importance of choosing a qualified and exceptional Doctor who will change his image permanently, there are 17 others, to quote your example, who fail to recognize how messed up the emotional and physical consequences that decision could have. It's really a Wild West out there of far too many clinics who have no business at all performing hair transplants and consequently destroy the well-being of so many lives.

I also think it would be interesting to have more doctor involvement on the site. Perhaps audio or video interviews that ask the interesting questions that come up from time to time. The doubts that we have about certain topics. And more educational knowledge coming our way. I have really gotten interested in everything that has to do with hair transplantation, so it would be great to have more doctors participating in these type of discussions.

This is a very nice result. I am sure the patient is over the moon with his transformation.

Personally I feel that the hairline is too straight, and too large of an area was covered with only 4,350 grafts. A better strategy would have been to cover only the frontal third and perhaps add some density in the mid-scalp area to ensure a thicker end result. A second pass could then have focused on the crown. The hairline design was also very ambitious. A more conservative hair line similar to a recent Dr. Ball surgery documented on youtube may have been a better approach. Check it out. His username is DnB_1989.

Payam, So sorry that this is causing you some anxiety. I briefly read that one of your concerns is that your hair transplant looks unnatural and it makes you feel self-conscious. Have you had an opportunity to visit another reputable clinic who could offer you some advice on receiving a repair? Getting feedback from a top-tier clinic on the quality of the work may also help you in receiving at least a partial refund that could go towards getting this fixed so that you can move on with your life. The good news is that your hair loss is not widespread so the focus should really be on finding a clinic that you trust and one that produces results that mimic nature. There are many options available so try to stay calm and focus on the solution.

First of all, I would like to highlight that definitions of "butchery" change over time. As the hair transplant industry has evolved, so have expectations. And while no clinic can guarantee excellent growth for each procedure, I do believe that a so-called "recommended clinic" should deliver results that are natural and undetectable. Furthermore, anything less than this standard is butchery per modern standards. What this means is that hair angles should mimic nature and only singles should be placed in the hairline. In other words, the hair transplant should look entirely natural regardless of whether there is 30% growth or 95% growth. While I will refrain from calling out any clinics specifically, there are some clinics that just disregard the fundamental principles of a natural hair transplant and this should not be normalized. Naturalness is in my opinion just as important as growth and we should not expect hairlines that are riddled with multis or angles that are off. Second of all, I do not believe that Payam is out of line when voicing his opinion on here. The forums are a great tool for clinics to market their skillset and build up their reputation. But the forums also hold clinics accountable when results are not up to par. Under no circumstances should anyone silence a patient who may have a result that one should never expect from any clinic. Thirdly, why are you bringing other clinics into this conversation? It is not a secret that all clinics have cases of poor growth. I believe that we are having a conversation about one specific clinic who quite a few people have voiced concerns of unnaturalness about in recent times. Poor growth surely becomes a problem when it occurs frequently but good growth means very little when a hairline looks unnatural.

It looks like there may be some doubles in your hairline (from the most recent photo that you posted). Who was your doctor?

Hi Upshall, How many days after surgery was that photo taken? Do you have any photos of what the area looks like now?

There is no reason why hair shouldn't take if the donor is healthy and underlying medical conditions have been reviewed to ensure a successful transplant.

Looks really natural. No one would ever assume that you had anything done.

I agree with BeHappy. Including a manipulated video of President Trump's hair loss removes sincerity and credibility from the forum and only serves to spread misinformation. Surely there are better ways of designing a so-called "humorous" video about hair loss than to use manipulated video footage?

Why don't you just save up more money and choose a clinic that you have enough confidence in to carry out the transplant successfully. Perhaps a good starting point would be to create a new list of clinics and go from there. Clinics in the EU and North America may be worthwhile considering.