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Thank you! At 25 I was a diffuse thinning Norwood 3V. Now at 32 I have an NW2 hairline thanks to Dr de Reys. My density is not great, but I have mostly good coverage all over the top because of finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and dermarolling. Parting fluctuates between decent and slightly two wide on a monthly basis. Still shed 200+ hairs a day and hae done for over 10 years, but it's not having a significant impact on my density

So two year update. 2 years ago I had 800 grafts, and one year ago an additional 200 grafts. Very happy with the results. First two photos are in a room with natural light from the window, possibly the kindest lighting! The next two were taken outside on a cloudy, but bright day, facing the sun. Dr Reys is not well known for his hairline work, but I hope people who see this will give him a look. Very nice work, very few grafts used, and great survival rate (my number one priorities) and lots of room for future maneuvering. Plus very reasonable prices.

Sorry, I've only just seen this message now! Yes you can publish a link to this post! I'm at about 7 months post op now and I'm very satisfied with the result. Those extra 200 or so grafts have made a significant difference. It's a bit annoying that I had to go back to have a second procedure to achieve the result I hoped for with my first procedure, especially the ugly duckling and hat phase all over again! But ultimately Dr De Reyes gave me a great result and used only 1000 grafts. I'm very happy with my decision to go to him now, and definitely made the right choice. I was quoted 2600 grafts by one of the prominent Turkish surgeons. That would have eaten up over half my donor. Now I have a normal looking NW2 hairline and I've barely touched my donor, so I've got another 4-5000 grafts left for when I need them in the future! I''ve also added dutasteride eod to my regimen, I think it may have slightly helped my density on top, but not totally sure.

After taking both for a good 5 months with no noticeable results, I suspect that like most western males, I lack the gut flora capable of converting isoflavones to equol. Green tea may have some preventative effect but you can't really assess prevention so well. They certainly haven't reduced my shedding which has always been extremely high. Green tea has low bioavailability. I suspect that equol itself would be more effective than soy isoflavones in the vast majority of cases. If you're East Asian the chances of being an equol producer are much higher, which in conjunction with a high soy diet, may go some way to explain the lower incidenc of AGA in east Asia.

So I had an FUE touchup 2 months ago to add density to my original HT to my hairline. I've been shedding a lot of hair (150-250 hairs per day), and have been throughout my 4 years on fin and minox, but to date it hasn't actually resulted in any decline in my hair. I seem to have chronic telogen effluvium, but it has been balanced by growth I suppose. But recently my crown is starting to thin a bit. Could this be because I quit minoxidil for 2 weeks post surgery? Or is it more likely progression of male pattern baldness in previously ok areas?

Cheers, yeah I think we're both good examples of his work. He's a good man, ethical, responsible, careful, and gets natural looking results with great yields/survival rates. I feel a bit bad for him, he doesn't deserve this b/s.

Yeah, Nick Baron is definitely not representing. Dr De Rey's anymore. He didn't mention anything specifically about U.K. Patients to me, he still does French, German and a Belgian patients of course. Sounds like Nick was trying to pull the same scam on you that Dr De Rey's said he was up to! I'm really happy with the touch up, much more even looking density at the front from the looks of things. A small number of grafts, but I think it will make a significant difference.

And for reference, this was my hairline before my first procedure apologies for the upside down picture, I never know which way up these photos will go!

I went to my old thread but couldn't edit the title so I decided to create a new one. I haven't posted in quite a while. Last year I had an FUE procedure. 800 grafts to my hairline, I wanted to restore my NW2.5 hairline to a more aesthetic NW2. Conserving my grafts for possible future progression of hair loss was important to me, so while I would have liked a nice low, dense hairline, I felt it would be a bit reckless. For this reason, I chose Dr De Reys, a surgeon noted for a conservative approach, with good ethics who does the extractions and incisions himself. Prior to the surgery, I was on finasteride and minoxidil for 4 years, regrew a modest amount of hair and maintained well above baseline since. I'm still on finasteride and minoxidil, in addition I now take soy isoflavone supplemements for equol, aloevera juice to reduce inflammation, and green tea egcg extract because it may (low bioavailability so not certain) down regulate androgen receptors. Overall I would say the result was pretty good especially considering how few grafts were used, however the centre of my hairline had a low density spot which needed reinforcement, so I returned to Dr De Reys almost exactly a year after my previous surgery for an additional 200 grafts. Overall I'd say the experience at the clinic was great, the procedure itself was carried out with utmost care, and I think in about 6 months time, I'll be able to put my hair stress and worries behind me, at least as long as finasteride and minoxidil keep doing their thing! Overall my recommendation is that anyone who is looking for a careful, ethical surgeon, who will take care of and responsibly use your limited donor resources, and create natural looking hair, Dr De Reys comes highly recommended. If anyone is looking for low, dense, movie star hairlines, one of the Turkish surgeons might be a better option, especially if your hair loss isn't going to progress past an NW3 or 4. For those of us looking at a potential NW5 or 6 genetic destiny, who want better hair now, but also to keep some hair for down the road when we may need it, or those who already have extensive hair loss, Dr De Reys is a great choice. Btw, if anyone i thinking about contacting him, DON'T USE THE UK WEBSITE! Promotional links removed This website is run by a Sri Lankan man and former patient who used to deal with UK customers, but was fired when it turned out he was quoting too many grafts and keeping the extra cash for himself. Apparently he now re directs any patients looking for Dr De Reys to German surgeons. Dr De Reys can be contacted at this site instead Promotional link removed It's in Dutch, but everybody speaks English so it shouldn't be an issue. The following photos were taken at 12 months post 800 grafts, and immediately after an additional 200 grafts.

Just got hold of him, luckily I got a date for this summer at exactly 1 year after my last surgery. He reckons about 300-400 shoukd be enough to fix the density issue, does that sound about right?

I contacted his online representative about getting the density increased. He said I should contact Dr Rey's directly. I did that but got no response. Probably too late to book an appointment for August which is my only available month. Here's my 10 month update. No change at all really. Situationally looks good/bad depending on lighting. These pictures were all taken with the flash on, standing beneath a slightly dim light. The last picture was taken using the flash but not standing under the light source so a bit more flattering

I don't think I'm imagining that thin centre parting, very visible scalp there. Don't get me wrong, it looks natural, I like the temples. It was overall a successful HT. Just not quite what I wanted or hoped for. It may be unrealistic expectations. I think Dr De Rey's is a very good surgeon! But I'm not sure if he was the right surgeon for what I hoped to achieve, namely a conservative NW 2 hairline with normal looking density. I got the former but not quite the latter. Yeah, for those of us thinning in NW5 or more patterns, we need as many grafts as possible, and FUT seems to be the best approach. I'm basically NW2 now but that's not going to last forever. My density on top is significantly lower than my back and sides. I don't ever intend to go slick shaved so that FUT scar is a small trade off for more grafts. There's always SMP or FUE for the scar too.

It looks very natural, yes! And I like the hairline shape and what he did at the temples! And for 760 odd grafts it's impressive! But I just don't like how thin that center parting is, I need more density. I can't style my hair the way I like. My forehead shape prohibits a side parting comb over. I could cut it short and comb forward, Buzz the sides and it would look more convincing. But for my current needs I'm certain additional density is required to not look like a guy with s thinning hairline. I have a much bigger and less forgiving forehead than most people so my case may be quite different from most people

So my 9 and a half month update. There's definitely room to squeeze in some extra follicular units there... My right side (4th photo) turned out the best. The left side (3rd photo) is definitely not as good. And my centre hairline does look like a thinning hairline, which still bothers me... All photos were taken with dry hair, volumising shampoo and standing under a light.

Thats a very nice result, congrats! That's good to know about Dr De Reys. Obviously the biggest risk is permanent shock loss or transection when adding density, but I'm 100% sure now that I'll need a second pass. I don't want to look like a guy with a thinning hairline, and my hairline is visibly less dense than the area behind. Actually now I'm thinking of getting FUT to maximize my available grafts and getting my whole frontal third reinforced. I'm thinking 1800 FUs might get me where I really want to be.