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  1. 11 points
    You will forget and not care about the price of a great Hair Transplant. You will never forget the price of a poor Hair Transplant.
  2. 9 points
    I have noticed that some members of this community continually denigrate our forum, and while they benefit from our community, they undermine our ethics and integrity whenever they can. In fact, I have had some members request to delete their topics, because of this negativity. These new members are now questioning our integrity and our ethics. I'm no longer going to tolerate this behavior. I would like to set the record straight. Firstly, since this pandemic our sponsorships have fallen by more than half, while our costs of running this community remain the same. We've made personal sacrifices to keep this community alive, and to keep promoting surgeons we feel our worthy of our recommendations. Now, not everyone will agree with our recommendations and that's fine, we are proponents of free-speech, and even though some may disagree with our recommendations, we allow everyone the opportunity to voice their opinions, good or bad. I would also like to set the record straight personally, I work a full-time job, and the work I do here is a fraction of my income. Since this pandemic, I'm working at a fraction of the fraction, to keep this community alive and thriving. I do not live in a mansion, I don't own a yacht, i'm a regular guy, who benefited from this community, and truly want to give back to the community that gave me so much. I take these gibes personal. In short, those of you who truly feel that we don't have any ethical integrity, I'm opening the door for you to leave our community. I will no longer tolerate denigration of this community that I work hard to preserve and upkeep on my free time. How Physicians Are Chosen
  3. 7 points
    Dear Community, It has come to my attention that one of our recommended surgeon's representatives took it upon himself to contact a forum member's employer. We take these things very seriously, as this undermines how we run this community. We want the community to know that we do not condone this behavior, and we are firmly against any sort of intimidation, whether it be through contacting employers, or family members. We have researched the allegations closely, and we have been provided with undeniable proof. As a result, we have decided to suspend this representatives participation on our forum. We have reached out to the physician, and he was unaware of this reps actions, and he does not condone his actions/behavior either. We are still deciding on whether this suspension will be permanent, but in all likelihood it will. Moving forward, I ask every forum member to contact me in the event that something like this occurs again. I would like to remind the community and the public that we are patient advocates first and foremost. Please understand that we are here to help patients, our mantra is "created by patients for patients" many organizations claim that they are advocates, but turned a blind eye, that is not us. Please know we will be having these issues addressed promptly.
  4. 7 points
    Erdogan loves using high graft numbers because they know at least half will grow so can say there was some iporovement in most cases. Not much consideration is given into future loss just their bank balance. It is why they have so many surgeries. I would never get a transplant there.
  5. 7 points
    Early signs of a norwood 8 .
  6. 7 points
    The mostly useless topic of manual versus motorized should be relegated to the trash heap. It may have held relevance at some point in time, but it means little today. Patients should also be leery of dogmatic statements made about how an individual conducts his or her practice as the only person who can provide definitive detail as to what is done and how it’s done is the surgeon himself. The fact is that I use multiple devices for extracting grafts, with the device of choice depending on the situation at hand. There are days when a motorized technique is best and days when a manual technique is best. There are days when a straight-wall trephine is best and days when a flared-wall trephine is best. There are days when a straight-edge trephine is best and days when a serrated-edge trephine is best. This argument reminds me of guys arguing which is better, a straight-edge screwdriver or a Phillips screwdriver. Of course the answer is that it depends on the situation at hand. Also remember, there are some talented surgeons who can use every technology effectively and some who, despite having the best of the best instruments, can’t extract quality grafts on a consistent basis. When it’s all said and done, it’s not the instrument that matters as much as the surgeon choosing the instrument to use for the situation at hand. If you place the world’s finest and most expensive Steinway piano in front of most people, very few would be able to generate a beautiful song. On the other hand, place one of the world’s top five pianists in front of a Walmart special keyboard and you will probably hear some darn good tunes.
  7. 7 points
    I don’t post too much but lurk a lot and based on what I have been reading around here, get ready for certain individuals to tell you that your hairline is not bad, looks good, that you have unrealistic expectations and all because it was done by Erdogan.
  8. 6 points
    Here is the first edition to the "best hair transplants of the week" Special thanks to @makehairgreatagain @BOW32 and @Danny1671 for allowing me to share their amazing results with the world. This is just the beginning guys, let's build this community up, as we all know how important it is for anyone researching hair transplants.
  9. 6 points
    Melvin and Diep better love story than twilight 😍
  10. 6 points
    If the patient does not require any further surgeries due to MPB being stabilised, or the patient does not want any further procedures, or simply cannot afford them in the future (Dadda even says he has limited funds) then this logic falls completely flat. It's fine to argue that a portion of the donor should remain untouched for further operations, but then why not at least make an effort to leave the donor looking cosmetically appealing??? I also don't understand exactly how this approach can "reduce the scarring". How does this work exactly? The extraction tool is the same, the scars would be the same, the patient heals the same, so the emphasis then becomes all about the extraction pattern - which everyone here rightly observes is strange. If the argument is that FUE reduces the overall density of the donor, then it becomes absurd to argue that it's somehow better to confine the extraction pattern to a single, smaller (and more noticeable) area. And that area isn't even uniform here. I agree. Given that every top tier clinic spreads out the extractions evenly, and every other top tier clinic uses a smaller punch size than Diep's 1mm punch, my (unfortunate) conclusion is to agree with @pre-screened and @PlzRespond that this was done to convenience the doctor. The fact that Dadda even says Diep was running behind all but confirms this. Thankfully it was only a small number of grafts so the donor will likely look fine. One truly worries however when there are larger graft numbers involved and this same "philosophy" is applied to those cases (as we have seen elsewhere on this forum) Let's at least hope the results are good. Wishing you the best @Dadda, keep us updated!
  11. 6 points
    @Singhair83 Turkey is the world capital of botched hair transplant and Hair of Istambul is your typical turkish hairmill operating several patients per day using underpaid technicians. If you want good results at a affordable price then do yourself a favor and go to Dr. Demirsoy (1.25€/graft). He does surgery on just 1 patient per day so he will be totally dedicated to achieving the best possible results for you. This is not like buying a car you can replace after a few years this is a permanent surgery and your donor area is limited so every graft is precious.
  12. 6 points
    In my time as a moderator and associate publisher of this community, I have seen censorship, you guys would be surprised how many members contact us asking to remove all of their posts because they're being sued. Most of these clinics/ surgeons are not well-known, we've even been sued several times ourselves, freedom of speech isn't free, but its necessary. I'm glad that I belong to a forum that truly keeps a free and open environment where surgeons and patients are held accountable for their actions and words. The more messages I get in my inbox, the more I see that we are becoming the minority in this industry. Censorship In The Hair Transplant Industry Is A Real Problem
  13. 6 points
    Let’s talk results. Did you choose a clinic with real patient reviews, or did you go to some low-cost FUE hair mill in search of the most grafts at the cheapest price? I truly hope you did your research, because this mentality is dangerous. You’re not shopping for a washer machine, you’re having cosmetic surgery. The results will change your appearance forever.
  14. 6 points
    I requested that my images be removed because I wished to regain my privacy, finding this experience to be utterly humiliating. I had previously uploaded screenshots (from the consultation sheet and emails) along with multiple photos outlining the specifics of my case. While my bad results are one thing, I believe the main concern here should be the unethical and fraudulent actions committed by Dr Devroye, such as; lying publicly about following the basic pre-op surgical protocols such as inspecting my donor or marking out the recipient sites properly (despite the photos i later supplied) having another doctor in his clinic operate on me without telling me (which goes against my prior consent) never explaining why the operation was expanded while i was unconscious (which goes against what we agreed to in pre-op and what is written on his consultation sheet) why I was forced to pay for the extra grafts taken (and what the cosmetic benefit of taking those extra grafts even was) why i was forced to pay his overseas bank fees lying about offering me post-op support once I left Belgium and started noticing what he had done I ask that this thread remain open so as to warn others about Dr Devroye's behaviour - especially given how I am the only patient posting of his within the last 7 years or so. If Dr Devroye was interested in challenging anything Ive said then I would be more than willing to resupply all the documentation and photos once again. However failing that I simply wish to regain my privacy and move on with my life, with my only interest in staying on this forum to assist others.
  15. 6 points
    Hi PA, So just to be clear: you started 1mg finasteride in July of 2018, and seemingly did not see any sort of initial shedding phase? By around 4.5 months post-op (November), your hair looked great and you appeared to be an excellent responder to finasteride. Then from November until now, you experienced gradual and worsening thinning to the point where you believe you have pretty much lost all gains? Typically people experience a shedding phase for the first 3-4 months; the follicles are somewhat "shocked" into a telogen phase (which lasts around 3-4) and then wake up and begin functioning better -- and growing stronger, healthier terminal hair as a result. If we presume that you did not experience an initial shedding phase but did experience one starting in November, it would likely end around March or so and should start exhibiting noticeable improvement by June or July. If you were my patient, I would probably tell you to wait 6 months from when the transition from Telogen (rest) to Anagen (growth) occurred. If we say the resting cycle ended in March, you would maybe want to wait until September before declaring that you have experienced no benefit from the finasteride. Now, how likely do I think this is? Probably not too likely. However, I have seen stranger things when it comes androgenic alopecia. I also think there is another possibility; and fair warning here: I do not think my experience and opinions when it comes to finasteride are necessarily as "main stream," but I feel pretty confident in what I have seen thus far interacting with thousands of hair loss patients over the past 5 years. I personally believe finasteride is a "kick the can down the road" type medication. In the end, androgenic alopecia is genetic. It is like your height, eye color, or any other inevitable physical trait based upon your genetic code. In the end, your genes are going to win out. You take a drug like finasteride and put someone on it while they still have a lot of their own native hair, and it may help them hold on to this hair or hold on to a greater portion of the hair for a longer period. In the end, however, they are still going to get to the same point. It just may take a little longer on finasteride. When you get to a certain point where you have already lost a good portion of hair or maybe the "horse is out of the barn" a bit, the drug tends to do less. You specifically may have been further along in the process, and there was just simply less that the drug could do. Maybe an initial "bump" was all that was possible before your body started making more DHT or expressing more DHT receptors in the follicles because that is its coded mission and there was not much you could do to slow it at this point in the mission. I know this is not the rosiest of theories, but I often find it holds water. While preventive medications are great and I always have a detailed discuss about using them with patients, they do have limitations and they cannot overcome what is hard-coded in your programming. Does this mean you should give up on it if you are not experiencing side effects? No, not necessarily. But it may be time to research other adjuncts (surgery possibly being one of them) to help. Just remember to play it safe and try to stick to tested and approved treatments. Again, the above is my educated opinion based upon my experience with the medication and hair loss patients. Other doctors may feel differently and they are absolutely entitled to their own conclusions based upon their experiences. I also say the above not to discourage anyone from using preventive medications; I do think they are useful adjuncts and recommend that all hair loss patients research and consider them.
  16. 6 points
    Perhaps it would better serve the community if you would act as a patient advocate more frequently instead of repeatedly finding excuses as to why procedures fail. Hopefully you do not take the feedback to heart but instead try to think and behave in a manner that is more balanced, fair and educated. Under no circumstances is this result acceptable and that shouldn’t even be implied by someone who should be looking out for patients and providing them with guidance and genuine/honest feedback. I enjoy providing feedback and guidance to those whom I can support. I fail to see the logic in you asking me to leave just because I provide you with direct feedback. At the end of the day, you should be supporting and encouraging members who help others and provide an honest and unbiased perspective to the community. This community is not about you; it is about helping others make well-informed and educated decision. You should encourage support for members and hair loss sufferers who need guidance. Fret not, I will continue to contribute.
  17. 6 points
    You realize Spex is Dr. Bhatti’s rep right? Also, he left on his own accord. I sent him an olive branch by asking to speak to him personally and he never replied. We’re here for patients and we will always represent patients. We cannot coddle the feelings or egos of paid reps. We did not ban him nor did we tell him to leave; he did that on his own accord. We’re not defending any doctors, we are being the voice of reason. I spoke with this patient when he was thinking about removing his transplant after a month. This sort of impulsive behavior shouldn’t be accepted as appropriate or normal. In fact, I’m seeing an alarming trend where patients are anxious about their results and start calling it a failure before the results have even started. We will never concede to this unhealthy behavior. We’re all patients ourselves me @Bill - Managing Publisher and @Pat - Community Publisher we’ve been in the chair multiple times, so we know what it’s like. This is not the first time you throw accusations our way. Our system isn’t perfect and there is always room for improvement, but name one forum that is as actively involved as our forum. I have advocated for this patient and personally sent Dr. Bhatti an email discussing his dissatisfaction thus far. We didn’t hide this thread, edit it or censor him in anyway. In fact, I take great offense that you accuse us of pocketing money for our benefit. I work a full-time job. I work here on my free-time because I’m passionate not because of money. We’re not living in mansions and riding in yachts. We completely upgraded our forum last year. We’ve made several upgrades to our patient websites making it mobile-friendly. We’ve put a lot of time and resources back in to the website to make it user-friendly and improve the user experience. You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. We do this so that patients have a place to speak and be heard. Sincerely, Melvin
  18. 6 points
    Please stop posting in this thread. I'm trying to provide constructive information for other people who are considering treatments with this doctor. Your comment about my donor area looking subpar immediately after surgery is well taken (you aren't fooling anyone by being purposefully literal to backtrack from the clear intent of your comment) - I think most people can agree the large punch looks a bit worse than the work of other doctors. But I think it remains to be seen whether or not this temporary condition has any lasting meaningful consequences - from what I've seen, the donor areas of Diep's patients look great after they heal, and his results speak for themselves in terms of his reasons why he uses the larger punch. And you can see from my pre-op photos that I've accepted the possibility of larger FUE scar since I don't wear my hair terribly short on the sides and back.
  19. 5 points
    After much hysteria on the forum, this issue has to be addressed. Anyone reading this that is interested in getting a hair transplant, it will either deter you away from one or entice you. If it does either my job is done. First of all, pictures can be deceiving both to present good and bad results. However, most only think that pictures can be deceiving to present good results, this is not true. I would like to start off by saying, I’m ecstatic about my hair transplant and it has changed my life, but I do not have true density. I have the “illusion of density” meaning I have to comb my hair a certain way and have it dry for my hair to lookst its best, but certainly it can look bad if I intentionally try too. I will be writing an article on this, because it is important to get out there. I’ve always said, id rather someone not get an HT if they’re not gonna be satisfied with the reality. Here are my pictures first one hairline spread apart in bright light looks horrible. Second one in normal room lighting, but not facing the light. Third one in bathroom lighting, with the light source behind the hair. See how each lighting changes the appearance and also how combing and layering the hair provides “illusion” of density.
  20. 5 points
    This restoration was performed over one and a half years, not two and a half years. There was a one year interval after its completion which is when the final photos were obtained for presentation here. There is no reason any ethical surgeon would force a fast-track restoration. First, the patient had been operated on by several physicians with nothing positive to show in terms of graft survival. An experienced surgeon would first question whether the patient had some intrinsic healing predisposition that compromised graft survival. Committing to a one-shot restoration would have proved disastrous should his limited supply have been fully depleted with a resultant low yield as had been experience in his prior procedures. Second, he had a highly compromised donor site with extensive scarring and lower quality residual follicular-units. Attempting the one-shot approach would have risked an over-harvest of the scalp’s donor area with the potential for unacceptable visual thinning and detectable scars. Finally, a staged approach allows the surgeon to strategically build zones of coverage and density gradients based on the perspective of seeing what a prior procedure was able to accomplish. Understand that we are using a relatively small number of hairs to hide a vast expanse of scalp. It is the strategic integration of hair using density gradients, graft insertion angles and prioritization of placement zones that makes a little look like a lot. Thanks for all comments.
  21. 5 points
    These individuals continually talk down on the forum and the fact that we take sponsorships to keep this forum alive. They are constantly talking down on the community, but I’m not gonna stand for it any longer. Enough is enough, if they don’t like our community, I will show them the door.
  22. 5 points
    They are called disconnected transplanted hair Another part of the hair will not grow because it is already completely disconnected. The detached hair is detached internally and is not intended to grow, but will have to fall out to allow the new growth that pushes from below, generated by the transplanted bulb. To recognize a disconnected hair, one month after the transplant, it is sufficient to evaluate its regrowth for a couple of weeks (if it remains the same in length, especially compared to the others, then it is disconnected!). It may happen that this disconnected hair does not fall on its own (as hopefully) but remains attached to the skin for months, preventing the leakage of the new underlying hair. In this case, when the phenomenon was recognized precisely for the characteristics described above, yes you can try to remove the disconnected hair by pulling it very gently with tweezers (almost no force is enough, because the hair is not tied to the bulb), thus facilitating the future leakage of healthy hair. If you accidentally pull a functional hair, do not worry, the follicle is under the skin and will produce a new one. But if you see that the hair offers tensile strength, then it is not a disconnected one and you have to leave it where it is.
  23. 5 points
    This story really had a big impact on me @Glam Hair shared his story, and I decided to make a video on it, because I think this story happens way more than we know. Let's share his story
  24. 5 points
    Its physically impossible to achieve. Simply put, how the fuck do you expect that the top of the head which is of similar size to the donor to achieve density at the same level that the the donor is to begin with? Its common sense. You may as well be believing in magic. At best most people can get 40%ish on average of original density across the entire NW5 area if they've lost it to begin with. Hasson is the surgeon I've seen that is closest to achieving natural density, but even his density is going to be significantly lower than what is natural, and even if it is possible to get close in the hairline it is an impossibility across the whole scalp. The entire premise of hair transplants is that you are able to extract from a donor without making a significant negative cosmetic impact while transferring to the front, only an idiot can look at that situation and not understand that there is an illusion going on in comparison to nature. Couto has many stunning results, but it should absolutely be considered that 95% of the results on his channel have incredible hair quality. Hugely above average. Even with 100% yields which many of his results appear to achieve they are significantly less dense than pre-hairloss. He's one of the best FUE surgeons in the world, but not a magician.
  25. 5 points
    I just wanted to take time to say thank you to everyone who comes on this forum to share their genuine experience for the collective wisdom and good of our community. The industry is changing rapidly, and a lot of guys out there are getting most of their "research" through social media ad-campaigns instead of learning from other patients. We have big plans this year, and we hope to continuously grow and cultivate this community, as we build trust through transparency. We remain one of the last places online to really host the good, the bad, and the ugly. It saddens me to say this, but it is a sad reality and state. This community was built over 20 years ago, to give patients a voice, and to cut past all of the infomercial hype that existed back then, but history seems to repeat itself. The good news is that we remain diligent and our work is rewarded with you guys, learning and paying it back. So thank you to our members, visitors and everyone in between. Remember guys we grow through word of mouth, so if you enjoy our community and find it helpful and insightful, be sure to spread the word far and wide. Thank you all, Here's to more hair in 2020🍻
  26. 5 points
    Think it largely depends on the person and how much they looked in the mirror beforehand and how much effort they give generally to their appearance. I would also guess the answer comes down to how successful their transplant(s) went as well, and what level norwood you are looking to cover. Me personally, even after a bad HT experience, i just grew my hair long to cover all my issues and would get out of bed in the morning and not even bother looking in the mirror. But then again i was in denial lol. Funnily enough, now after a recent good HT i find myself looking in the mirror moreso and occasionally thinking "damn my surgeon is talented". I think the whole point of getting a HT is to not think about your hair anymore so an argument might be made that you can properly assess it by asking "how anxious are you about your balding now vs how anxious will you be about having some hair that you can actually style". For some guys though no amount of hair is ever enough If you do get start travelling down the HT road keep in mind you probably will need more than one to achieve to achieve favourable results, and will also need to keep an eye on things as once male patterned baldness has begun it continues and is unpredictable. For me thats my only remaining anxiety as i really want to avoid surgery again Good question for a survey btw!
  27. 5 points
    Nah I think we've had it wrong this whole time it's obviously Regenix
  28. 5 points
    This the main reason I didn’t go with diep .. even though I already deposited the $1000 .. I rather risk losing the deposit than to have subpar results where he won’t fix it .. it’s always the customers fault if ur transplant don’t turn out well . Was the feeling I got when I was speaking the office manager ... hair transplants aren’t guaranteed . But if u don’t have good results , at least attempt to fix it .. who wants to spend $15,000- $20,000 n not get what they paid for.. I mean if ur results were B- quality . It’s still acceptable ,. But this is C- quality, how can u not attempt to fix things .. they can’t ! Because they booked too far in advance , to fix the mistake they did on u will cost double the money .. the free repair + the $20,000 they would be losing to another potential patient that could be having surgery that day .. it’s just buisiness to the clinic , n another number .. but to us, it’s our savings n A permanent result that lasts forever .. Good or bad .. clinics need to understand that ..
  29. 5 points
    Guys, I’ve been alerted by another Bhatti patient a legitimate one who posts here all the time, and is not affiliated that he received two receipts. This patient said he wasn’t provided any, why he wouldn’t ask for one I don’t know. I’ve also been provided an email exchange that shows the patient was clearly unhappy at some of the concerns he shared, but also about the fact that he has to pay for his hotel stay, which he claims was part of their deal. Based on Bhatti’s reply he didn’t apologize for the patient’s unhappiness with waiting etc. This might’ve solved the issues, but I honestly feel OP was mad he had to pay for his hotel stay. Frankly, this has been a circus that has taken hours of my time trying to make this community a better place for patients and physicians. All of this for a few hundred dollars seems ludicrous, but I think Dr. Bhatti could’ve handled this a lot better I will be speaking with him privately. At this point, this sideshow has gone on long enough and I’ve wasted enough time on this. I’m locking it so the community sees my response and conclusion. If at some point I’m provided with inarguable facts and evidence as opposed to “hearsay” I will re-open the thread. Now lets focus back on what’s important RESULTS!
  30. 5 points
  31. 5 points
    See, here's the thing, though. There's a major difference between coming onto someone's thread in an attempt to provide support (since, as we all know, hair restoration is a stressful journey) and joining in the conversation with inflammatory language to make them feel worse. Kraistoff was uncertain and needed support and guidance...not for anyone else to use his result as a prop to bash a clinic against which they have a personal vendetta (these people know who they are). Obviously, we should be honest, but there are constructive ways of telling the truth that show sensitivity to the struggles of the individual/OP. The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" seems to apply. Basic rule of thumb? Use the same social skills you'd use if you were talking to the person face-to-face. If someone's result looks good to you, tell them, as I'm sure they'd appreciate it. If they don't look good to you, stay quiet and only make this opinion known if the OP asks for it (and do it in a way that's helpful, like a suggestion about how to improve the situation); for the purposes of determining whether or not a clinic is outputting good results, let the pictures speak for themselves. If people on this thread had been more sensitive to Kraistoff's needs and not their own, he wouldn't be asking to leave.
  32. 5 points
    People aren't looking for answers, they're looking for action. No "answer" can satisfy the results we've seen over the past 1-2 years. Action would be nice, both from the admin side on this forum who are raking in the cash on the back of Erdogan, and from Erdogan himself who, in a reciprocal parasitic manner, is raking in even more cash from the advertising given here. The result: damaged mental health, depleted bank balances from often people who've saved for years to do the procedure, and ongoing daily stress from having to see the botched work in the mirror day in, day out.
  33. 5 points
    I cannot understand why ASMED is still a recommended surgeon after a tsunami of poor reviews over the past 12-18 months. It's not as if these are one-off experiences, either. After all, if a surgeon is "recommended" on a forum such as this, which has a large following, it's incumbent upon the powers that be that this recommendation is not made. Having surgery to adjust one's appearance is no small thing. It can for many lead to depression, and that's without discussing the physical scars and financial loss that comes with poor surgical practice. I believe, as do many others, that a moratorium should be held on their recommendation until such time that results have restored to a sufficient standard. If this action is not taken, there must be an ulterior motive - such as finance. If Dr. Erdogan was recommended by popular vote, then ANOTHER popular vote should be held. If not, why not? These results are an absolute disgrace.
  34. 5 points
    This is what you get when you go with a world class surgeon. No marketing, no technicians, no bullshit. I wish I could go back and use him for my previous surgery too. This forum needs to rethink who it recommends here.
  35. 5 points
    Agreed, there should be pictures of both environments, as people’s lives are spent in both settings. I just wanted to point out that it is reasonable to hope for an HT that looks decent both indoors and outside. They are both “normal” conditions and you shouldn’t be expected to be satisfied with results that only look acceptable in the most optimal of conditions.
  36. 5 points
    Although I understand what you’re getting at here, I would say that the pics he provided are in “normal lighting”, as people are routinely outside during daylight hours in their normal lives. Obviously outdoors/sunny lighting isn’t typically going to be as flattering a setting for an HT as indoor, non-overhead lighting. That doesn’t mean it isn’t “normal lighting”. And, wanting your HT to look natural when outside during the day is a reasonable expectation.
  37. 5 points
  38. 5 points
    Contact asmed and say hey great result I'm so thrilled, can you post this on your website, YouTube channel and on the forum? in all honesty it's not a botch but not great either and requires more density no doubt. This problem of yours is becoming very common. Yes there will be people saying there is no guarantees and everyone's physiologically is different you just dont know what's going to happan. Well when it's the exact same issues on a growing number of patients (see through hairlines, bad density/growth) then that theory is completely false. Unfortunately nothing will be done in terms of taking this doctor off recommended lists like this one and the iahrs whom both require consistent good results to stay affiliated. Melvin/bill it is your duty to help guys out there and not let bad results ruin lives. If you take guys like Erdogan off your list you will save alot of heart ache and depression. This is serious, you need to do the right thing if you care at all about how hairloss and bad results can ruin lives. Enough is enough there is too much vested interests in this industry it's about time someone actually stood up for what's right. Even if my own results ends up being decent maybe I will get lucky and would have had the right team but my opinion will never change as to how they operate and I dont want to risk other people getting messed up, why? Because i care about this sh!t
  39. 5 points
    I have always been defending asmed and even wanted to go there myself but i think it's time we start taking these complains seriously.
  40. 5 points
    Who snitched on him ? Bman is literally coming on this forum for advice n help .. if some members have arguments n stuff .. just stop talking to each other but what’s up with the tattletelling .. I’m interested in this update n prefer for him n other members to continue posting their progression results , whether good or bad ... ( but it’s true the bad ones are the most fun threads to foLlow .. n it’s also sometimes the patients last resort to venting and expressing their results . Nothing wrong with that .. I don’t even look at doctor posted pics anymore .. it’s almost meaningless .. the most meaningful threads are posted by patients .,
  41. 5 points
    Suddenly this thread evolved into a commercialized promotion of certain doctors.
  42. 5 points
    it's my decision on who I feel confident with and who I choose to go with for a HT. Thanks to Payam's post I wont ever be considering Dr, Koray as it was a real eye opener. And while no doctor has a 100% success rate there's some doctors out there who are willing to put their money where their mouth is by offering some sort of warranty incase the HT doesn't go according to plan. Far better than having Dr. Koray's assistants work on me while he supervises from an office chair looking at a television screen!
  43. 5 points
  44. 5 points
    I've tried to hold my tongue on this thread, as it seems to have devolved into a hysterical, hand-wringing, anti-Erdogan frenzy that I didn't want to indulge. However, the claims on here that no one has gotten good results out of ASMED recently are flat out dishonest. While I didn't originally want to name names, I felt I needed to do so in order to make a credible point to those who are lurking here (including newbies) who may be influenced by what's been said, about the clear distortions that have been made on this thread. For great results from ASMED in this forum from surgeries that were performed since the end of 2016 (i.e., no touchup was necessary, whether or not the individual decided to take another pass anyway), look at Alexmczane26575, DEB1982, JeanLDD, Jammerz, Vchorro, Sk78, Artofeden, HG1, Vainism, and Ediee. For good results since the end of 2016 (i.e., there was a major cosmedic improvement the first time around but a minor touchup was needed to achieve a perfect result), see Jonyny (who says he is happy now), Pancake, Shuriken, Nathd911, HairDew (who specifically says he is very happy with his hair), Bloodshoteyes, Handski, Ponchik, Scotty9107, Hamburger, and JustJax. Only five people -- you, Webhandler, Planetstephen, Boulderbalder, and Rwethereyet, showed results that could be considered "mediocre" (i.e., they need another procedure of comparable magnitude to the first to achieve the optimal result, by their own account). I did not include HT0416 because his surgery was over two years ago (in other words, outside the timeframe in contention). That means, in this forum alone, and at the time I did my analysis in the beginning of December, there were 10 great results since the end of 2016, 11 good results, and 5 that were "mediocre." So let's do the math here....21/26 = 81% good or great and 5/26 = 19% that were mediocre. None were poor (poor being defined as the hair looking the same or worse than it did before surgery). For a good example of what "poor" looks like, see Sanjar41 and Sufferer12, who went to a clinic in Colorado and had truly awful results, by their own account. When combining results from the French and Italian forums with those of this forum, the results were essentially the same -- 48% great, 33% good, 19% mediocre, and 0% poor (so, doing the math, 81% good to great) -- but with a much larger and more statistically significant sample size. In this forum, it also looks like grantleebuffalo and cali101 will soon be in one of the top two tiers (although I had initially rated them as inconclusive, as their procedures were 5 months ago or less when I did my analysis); we can also add Panos1982 to the ranks of "great" as well. I hadn't included Panos in my initial analysis since his post was put up afterwards. I understand you're upset, as the numbers above would be of no solace to someone who is in the unfortunate minority. However, you clearly are in a very vocal minority of dissatisfied patients. Furthermore, there is plenty of evidence that the clinic reached out to those that were dissatisfied to try to help those patients. Planetstephen is going back for a touch-up this month. HT0416 was offered a repair but declined. You have openly stated you won't go back there, and you're not even at 10 months post-op (when everyone repeatedly told you you need to wait 12-18 months), so what exactly do you expect from them? The clinic says they offer a 90% regrowth guarantee, which means you wouldn't pay a cent if you got a yield lower than that. As far as the technicians are concerned, you make a lot of assumptions about their level of experience and the idea that it was their involvement that led to your mediocre results. You have no idea what caused your results. Your fever on the first night may have been your body rejecting your grafts, for all you know, but you chose to assume that it was the technicians' fault. You have no evidence of this. You make several claims that you were misled about the surgeon's degree of participation in the surgery. Nowhere on the ASMED website, or anywhere else, does Dr. Erdogan claim to carry out the entire procedure himself. Once again, you made an assumption which could have been easily clarified with simple research or questions posed to your coordinator. I asked my coordinator these questions prior to my surgery and she explained every aspect of the process to me, in detail. You weren't mislead....you just didn't ask questions and made unsafe assumptions about what the experience would be like. Finally, with respect to HT0416's hairline shape....buddy, you really need to take some responsibility for this. Why didn't you ask Dr. Erdogan to change the hairline before surgery began if you didn't like it? I asked the doctor like 3 different times to modify my hairline before I gave them the go-ahead to proceed, and he was happy to make the adjustments for me each time. You are responsible for taking an active role in your own hairline design. Don't just leave it up to the doctor to make that determination and then whine about it later, when you had ample opportunity to make a change.
  45. 5 points
    What’s wrong with his results ? Looks good for $16,000 . Money well spent ..
  46. 5 points
    Conor McGregor is that you ? haha jk. Looking great man, thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. You definitely are a fast grower.
  47. 5 points
    Hi Guys, Most of of you are familiar with my story, but some of you new guys may be wondering how I got started. The truth is, I started off researching just like most of you, luckily I found this forum that gave me the tools and confidence to pull the trigger and start my hair loss journey. I wanted to let you guys know that we will start posting informative videos on YouTube. I encourage you guys to watch and share this video with anyone interested in getting a hair transplant and seeing a real result from a real patient.. If you guys have any suggestions for topics please let me know.
  48. 5 points
    I'm having a procedure done with ASMED in a couple of weeks and, like many of you, wanted a better idea of my chances of having a satisfactory result. Since there have been many differing opinions on here concerning this clinic lately (and while it's a little tough to quantify something like this), I figured I'd try to tackle the question mathematically/statistically to produce a more definitive answer. Methodology for Analysis: First, I went through the French, Italian, and English hair loss forums (i.e., international, Belli Capelli, and this forum, respectively), and looked through every result that was posted within the last 2 years (I went back to around September 2016). I recorded the approximate date (to the nearest month) that the surgery was performed and assigned a score for the result based on the pictures that were posted. The ranking criteria were as follows: - Great = A score of 4 = The result of the transplant was a very thick, natural looking head of hair; in my opinion, no further surgical intervention is required. - Good = A score of 3 = The result of the transplant was a major improvement over the pre-operative state, but not perfect; while the hair is generally thick, a minor touch-up may be required to achieve the optimal result. - Mediocre = A score of 2 = The result of the transplant was a modest to moderate improvement over the pre-operative state; a second procedure of a similar magnitude will likely be required to achieve patient satisfaction. - Poor = A score of 1 = A complete botch job. The scalp looks effectively the same or worse than it did before surgery. A second operation is absolutely required (and possibly a third) if there's any hope of salvaging the situation. - Inconclusive = No score = The result could not be determined due to the fact that the surgery was performed too recently (less than approximately 5 months ago) or the fact that the user did not continue to post their results/pictures beyond a few days/weeks/months. There are some rare cases where a patient experienced a good result by the 5 or 6 month point and I felt comfortable including them in the analysis despite the fact that their hair has not fully matured. Caveats: - While there are many clinic-posted results in all three forums, I only included those from the Italian forum in this analysis (in other words, I only included patient-posted results from the French and English forums). Why did I do this? First, in the French and English forums, there was no indication as to when the clinic-posted surgeries were performed. Second, the doctor likely only posted his best results, leading to a form of selection bias. When patients post their own results, from start to finish, selection bias is less likely. Third, I wanted to make sure I didn't double-count, so each patient had to have a unique identifier (and it was hard to assign one for clinic-posted results; for patient-posted results, on the other hand, I could differentiate them with their user names). Please note that the omission of clinic-posted results might skew the results in such a way as to make them seem slightly more negative than they actually are. - I realize that the ratings I assigned to each result are subjective. I can't think of a way to do this in a truly objective way, as one person's "good" might be another's "mediocre." For this reason, I'm willing to provide user names via PM in case there are any doubts concerning my judgment. Analysis: The chart below shows my findings from the three forums, combined, within the specified date range. I removed the user names and replaced them with patient numbers to maintain anonymity. As I mentioned above, if anyone wants to see the user names associated with the patient numbers in order to check me (or compare your judgments with my own), I can send them to you via PM. Assigned Patient Number Surgery Date Result Rating 1 Sep-16 4 2 Oct-16 3 3 Oct-16 3 4 Oct-16 3 5 Nov-16 4 6 1-Nov 4 7 Nov-16 4 8 Nov-16 N/A 9 Nov-16 3 10 Dec-16 4 11 Jan-17 2 12 Feb-17 4 13 Feb-17 4 14 Feb-17 4 15 Feb-17 3 16 Feb-17 N/A 17 Feb-17 4 18 Feb-17 4 19 Feb-17 3 20 Mar-17 3 21 Mar-17 4 22 Mar-17 N/A 23 Apr-17 4 24 Apr-17 N/A 25 May-17 3 26 May-17 3 27 Jun-17 2 28 Jun-17 N/A 29 Jul-17 4 30 Jul-17 4 31 Jul-17 3 32 Jul-17 3 33 Jul-17 2 34 Jul-17 2 35 Jul-17 N/A 36 Aug-17 4 37 Aug-17 3 38 Aug-17 N/A 39 Sep-17 3 40 Sep-17 N/A 41 Sep-17 2 42 Oct-17 4 43 Oct-17 2 44 Oct-17 4 45 Oct-17 4 46 Oct-17 4 47 Oct-17 N/A 48 Nov-17 4 49 Nov-17 3 50 Nov-17 2 51 Nov-17 N/A 52 Nov-17 4 53 Nov-17 3 54 Dec-17 4 55 Dec-17 4 56 Dec-17 3 57 Dec-17 2 58 Dec-17 4 59 Dec-17 3 60 Dec-17 2 61 Dec-17 N/A 62 Dec-17 N/A 63 Jan-18 4 64 Jan-18 3 65 Jan-18 3 66 Jan-18 2 67 Jan-18 N/A 68 Jan-18 N/A 69 Feb-18 4 70 Feb-18 4 71 Mar-18 2 72 Mar-18 4 73 Mar-18 3 74 Mar-18 2 75 May-18 3 76 May-18 4 77 May-18 N/A 78 Jun-18 N/A 79 Jul-18 4 80 Jul-18 N/A 81 Jul-18 N/A 82 Jul-18 N/A 83 Jul-18 N/A 84 Aug-18 N/A 85 Sep-18 N/A 86 Sep-18 N/A 87 Sep-18 N/A 88 Sep-18 N/A 89 Sep-18 N/A 90 Oct-18 N/A 91 Oct-18 N/A 92 Oct-18 N/A 93 Oct-18 N/A 94 Oct-18 N/A 95 Oct-18 N/A 96 Oct-18 N/A 97 Nov-18 N/A 98 Nov-18 N/A 99 Nov-18 N/A 100 Nov-18 N/A As you can see, I looked through 100 patient reviews between the three forums. Out of the 100, only 63 were conclusive. Out of the 63: - 48% were great - 33% were good - 19% percent were mediocre - 0% were poor For me, a result of good or great is acceptable. Here's some more useful data: - There is an 81% chance of an acceptable (i.e., good or great) result - Margin of error is 12% (with a confidence level of 95%)* - Average is 3.3 (a result between good and great) - Median is 3 (a good result) - Mode is 4 (a great result) - Standard deviation is 0.771 * I calculated margin of error by assuming that ASMED performs 4 surgeries per day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, yielding a total population of 2,080 surgeries performed within this time frame (and, as shown above, a sample size of 63 patients). I want to stress, again, that I excluded all clinic-posted results from the French and English forums, so outcomes may actually be better than what is posted above. Another question that was recently raised was whether or not quality from this clinic has decreased over time. In order to determine if this is the case, I plotted the results from above against time (see the plot below) and inserted a best-fit trend line (including a projection into the future, assuming the same trends continue to hold). It does appear that there has been a slight degradation in quality for surgeries performed between September of 2016 and June of this year. It looks like this degradation may have been caused by a cluster of negative reviews made by patients who had surgery between August and December of 2017 (though there were also many successful surgeries that occurred around this time as well). I might do another analysis looking further back into the past to see if this trend remains the same, or if the second half of 2017 was a blip. I don't know about you guys, but this made me feel a bit more confident about my upcoming surgery. Any thoughts?
  49. 5 points
    I don’t understand why we have to pretend there’s hope for this poor guy following 7 months. Yes, there may be additional growth and thickening. Will it be satisfactory? Absolutely not. Let’s please stop with the sunshine pumping and be real with people so they can address the issue sooner than later.
  50. 4 points
    I wanted to share with you guys my imperfections, no one ever shows this in the industry, and it’s a real shame, because it sets so many up for failure. Most of you know my story, bald before 30, three hair transplants over 5k grafts. My hair looks better than I could’ve ever imagined, but the reality is, it’s far from perfect. Below how my hair looked at 29 before any surgery. Second how it looks wet outta the shower, see all that scalp! Third once it’s damp and combed, still see scalp but a lot less. Now, I hope this can paint a realistic depiction of how hair transplants work, they do not match hair for hair-hair loss. They provide you with the ability to have an “illusion” of hair and the opportunity to take advantage of concealers to mask any vulnerability. Hope this can help you guys on your journey to more hair.
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