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  1. 7 points
    I don’t post too much but lurk a lot and based on what I have been reading around here, get ready for certain individuals to tell you that your hairline is not bad, looks good, that you have unrealistic expectations and all because it was done by Erdogan.
  2. 5 points
    I don’t understand why we have to pretend there’s hope for this poor guy following 7 months. Yes, there may be additional growth and thickening. Will it be satisfactory? Absolutely not. Let’s please stop with the sunshine pumping and be real with people so they can address the issue sooner than later.
  3. 4 points
    Not sure anyone can say with any great conviction they have stopped balding (unless a person has lost all the hair on top), even more so if they are not on medication and in their 20s or 30s. MPB is progressive and can creep up on you at any age even when you feel it has stopped. With regards to finasteride, it's pretty simple .......by taking it you are playing the percentage game and giving yourself a better chance of keeping hold of remaining hair while adding through a HT and thus increasing the chances of holding onto a result. HT's can and are done without finasteride but the emphasis on mapping out a plan with your surgeon for the future is much greater imo and you may find yourself looking at another procedure sooner than you thought if/when you continue to lose your native hair. You would need enough donor supply to cover future loss and it needs to be used wisely with one eye on the future. For that reason, they'd more than likely be a need to be pretty conservative in your expectations without finasteride i.e wouldn't be expecting to lower a hairline too much if you still have a fair amount of native hair or throwing too many grafts at the crown/vertex area. In a way, guys who have more extensive loss probably have a better chance of getting away with a HT without finasteride. Usually a clear pattern has developed and a surgeon can probably better predict where the loss maybe heading in the future and a conservative approach is usually taken. When the donor supply/characteristics have permitted and in the hands of good surgeons, I've seen some good results with these kind of patients but they have generally been conservative and on patients in their late 30s onwards. Think guys who still have a lot of native hair and decide to go for a HT without finasteride (especially younger guys) are playing a guessing game and this is where it gets tricky imo. Think any good surgeon will look to mitigate the uncertainty factor as much as possible and finasteride is an important 'tool' that aid's that.
  4. 4 points
    Most of the results look poor. same people commenting on all the results must be mods or affiliated to the clinic saying bravo job. dr erdogan was once a highly rated surgeon back in 2013 in that time he has changed how he practices moving to bigger clinics and having 4 patients plus a day 2000-3000 grafts per patient. results are just not the same, once surgical assistant dilek is now head boss running a bunch of young surgical assistants with dr erdogan supervising from head office via monitors. patients are no longer getting a dr erdogan hair transplant they are getting a asmed hair transplant, completly different to what you once got hence the poor results. Lots of un natural results coming out of this clinic, lots of patients are afraid to speak up about it. A gang of keyboard bullys will attack you and tell you have mental problems.
  5. 4 points
    Pelodinero, How you present yourself on this forum and interact with physicians and other members is cause for concern. No two patients are the same, there are several variables to hair restoration, hair shaft diameter is one of the most if not the most important aspect to the overall cosmetic outcome of a procedure and it's obvious this patient has extremely fine hair. With that said, I agree this result is not jaw dropping, but you already posted one negative comment about the result, fair enough you didn't think it was a good result. However, you continue to be demeaning and have an overall toxic attitude. You have had a hair transplant yourself, but you have never posted a picture of your results, I am sure you wouldn't like it if someone continuously put down your result not once, not twice, but three times. I have already warned you previously and it seems you can't help yourself. Every result is attached to a person and you never know if that patient visits our forum. Every single person here is a hair loss sufferer and knows how difficult it is to deal with someone putting you down, this will be my second warning, a third time and I will be forced to suspend your posting privileges indefinitely. It's clear the patient could improve further, but it is also clear that his appearance has improved and he now has a frame to his face. Everyone is welcome to share their opinion on the result, good or bad, but guys let's be respectful. Warm regards- Melvin
  6. 4 points
    Oh yeah...I was 64. Had my 2nd at 66. I had a Heart Attack at 65. Off year, ya know. There is no excuse needed for wanting to look better at any age. I feel stronger, sing better, and have great plans for my 70's. Guys who say they want to look good now and won't care when they hit 50 need to hit 50. Then we'll talk!
  7. 4 points
    Hello fellow follicularly challenged forum members, Im creating this thread, because managing our expectations is as important as selecting a good surgeon. This forum was created by patients and for patients. After 3 surgeries, I find myself wanting more, but at what point do we have diminishing returns? We want just one more strip or one more FUE that can severely compromise our donor and scalp, in most cases for a small touch up or added density. We mustn’t lose sight of where we came and how far we’ve come. Unfortunately, surgery has its limitations and until hair cloning is an option, we have to accept that our donor hair is finite. We will never get back the hair we once had as teenagers, but we can get back the “illusion”. I for one am grateful for the results I’ve been able to achieve. Do I have a perfect head of hair? Absolutely not, but is it a huge improvement from what I had? Absolutely.
  8. 4 points
    It is ironic yet true that when provocative topics are raised - we tend to get answers. Do you really think Dr. Erdogan would have EVER bothered to come here on the board and give his explanation of tech training at his facility if there wasn't a real reason to do so? Frankly, he should have a section about that on his website - since he's such the promoter, eh? Yet we only get a personal long explanation when enough doubt or noise was created. Let me tell you something; my entire extended family is in the healthcare industry (doctors/pharmacists/physician assistants/nurses) and I can tell you with absolute certainty they are just like anyone else. Certainly nothing more but often much less than the rest of the masses. Yea, they are usually very intelligent and take tests well - that's not everything. Bedside manner is relevant too - and truly wanting to heal. Plastic surgeons usually don't go into their field 'cause it's a 'calling' - it's detailed and demanding but very lucrative. Now, to the point. There are so many doctor's that are challenged on this website and we never get a clear answer. Oh, it will mess up my refund, I don't want to out my doctor, blah blah blah. Most of them have a rep on this board or I can guarantee you someone on their staff looking for mention's of their name on this forum. What do we normally get? An echo chamber and then mods begging for more info so they can open a dialogue with the doctor. I'd like to hear more about that. Website gets paid big bucks from doctor's and then I see alot of half-assed excuses about resolution. I often wonder what the story is behind the scenes (outside of the website mission statement). Case in point. I bet at least the vast majority of doctor's aren't showing the required work on this website they are supposed to be accountable for. Oh, but the moderator didn't keep up on that for the last 6 months - 'cause hey, I'm getting paid and I have to moderate all these posts and keep replies on topic. Doctor's should be required to interact on at least a limited basis here in order to stay recommended. In fact I saw a couple very nice/detailed and informative replies from Dr. Bhatti today - thank you doctor for your insight to a regular poster(s). I realize doctor's are busy but surely they can step up and reply to at least the most interesting questions on this forum. Many do, more need to do so. It's called good standard of care. Perhaps I'm most disappointed in newbies who don't use the search function and spend REAL time studying and reading months and months (years and years) of QUALITY and in-depth threads before they come on here and ask the same uninformed questions. It would be better to charge an initial small registration fee to post in order keep out utterly clueless that don't bother to really approach major surgery investigation with the respect it deserves. But what do I know? The majority in here are into hair porn and can't emotionally handle going bald as nature intended; it's flaccid and weak & I have no bloody use for it. Yet, here I am posting like an idiot!! ; )
  9. 4 points
    Look, you need to chill out! You are judging your result at 5 months like your transplant has failed. You are not being respectful to ASMED and giving your transplant and body the time it needs to recover and flourish. You have a long journey ahead of you and you are making it a very stressful and unpleasant time for yourself. I'm not interested in bitching about ASMED because my transplant has not finished growing in yet. I'm going to continue doing what I have been doing, enjoying my life and not stress about it. Life is too short and there is too much fun to be had out there. I suggest you do the same
  10. 4 points
    I understand Gas' input on topic and I can appreciate the fact that it's not his intention to dishearten me or cause me to questions my or my doctor's decisions - particularly because comments of that nature serve no real purpose at this point. Regardless, like I mentioned in my original post, my NW is high with the potential to go higher. I'm on fin and minox to try to stabilize loss. Because of the high NW potential, I want to make the most of my donor supply and not go too dense too quickly and I'm willing to be patient and work with my doctor to get it right. I've seen her results, I trust her judgment with respect to density and I respect her judgment with respect to tailoring her decisions with respect to hairline conservativeness and design. Ultimately, I like the way it looks now and I'm excited to see how it grows in, but I know there's a long road ahead of me before I get an idea of the final result. Regardless, what I was hoping this threat DID NOT turn into was a commentary on how the rest of the forum compares american doctors to turkish doctors. My decisions have all been made, the procedure is done, and I'm hoping for the best. This thread was created to document my experience and answer questions about my experience. That being said, while some information is available to me - # grafts, etc., certain info is not - whether doubles were bisected to create singles. Like a few have mentioned - this is a first time HT for me, I'm nervous about everything from losing grafts to going to work and wondering if anyone is going to notice I had something done. I've done everything I can to comply with all of my doc's post-op recovery guidelines and I'm optimistic. As a result, I'm probably hypersensitive to criticism and negativity. Regardless, given my case, I'm fully aware that this isn't a one-and-done procedure for me. My efforts towards being happy with my appearance are going to be the very definition of a journey. I only ask that posters on this thread respect and understand that before commenting. Thanks.
  11. 3 points
    Man... I really wish the mods and jean would just leave this thread alone and stop butting in every 5 minutes. Let the people have the freedom to have an honest discussion whether it be good or BAD about asmed and erdogan practices, without threats of suspensions. It’s getting really frustrating to see how much Melvin in monitoring this thread, it feels like users can’t express their opinion without him diving in. The only person who is derailing it is you. And If users have questions which kind of branch off, but are still kind of related to the procedure, why can’t we discuss them in this thread? Instead of telling people ‘if you have a question please create a topic’, what’s the big deal if a question gets discussed in here?
  12. 3 points
    It seems you’re only reason for being on this forum is to bad mouth Dr. Erdogan, even after you have your own thread you literally comment on every thread bad mouthing Dr. Erdogan. As a patient, you’re entitled to be upset at your results. Even though the majority of individuals don’t think the results are bad, but now you’re intentionally trying to persuade another member that their results are bad. This sort of behavior is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
  13. 3 points
    On average, 1 in 8 follicles is in telogen state at any time. It is in a resting state with no hair. That means some of the doubles, look like singles when they are extracted. The 2nd follicle in the graft is in telogen. So a graft with a single hair but two follicles can easily be mistaken for a single and implanted in the hairline. It is also possible for a triple to have two follicles in telogen. You need a high powered microscope to see the telogen follicles, and you need to examine every graft that goes into the hairline very carefully. Many FUE-only clinics do not have microscopes. It is normally not an issue for FUT surgeries because every graft is separated and sorted under a high powered microscope. Even with skilled technicians at the microscope, it’s possible to miss a few. I don’t think having a few doubles in the hairline makes a significant cosmetic impact, however, having a lot of them does tend to create a tree-trunk effect and make the hairline seem less natural.
  14. 3 points
    Everyone, I need to chime in here because the drama surrounding Dr. Erdogan is getting to be ridiculous. The bottom line is this, EVERY surgeon, even those who all of you consider the BEST have dissatisfied patients and less than optimal results. It’s impossible to bat a thousand and that’s just reality. Just because a few individuals have had poor results, doesn’t mean that a surgeon is less than reputable or isn’t doing state of the art work. Moreover, I know some have expressed concerns about technicians harvesting the follicular units. However, while this practice may be considered illegal in the United States, it’s perfectly legal in Turkey. Also, Dr. Erdogan is very meticulous and watches over his staff to ensure everything is being done properly Now, I know it’s scary and disheartening when a patient comes forward and shares their results that are subpar. However, we need to take things as a whole and not work only at the couple results that arent optimal. Now by no means do I intend to discount any ones individual experience. How they feel is how they feel and if the results are poor, then my suggestion is to discuss their concerns with the doctor and give him a chance to make things right. Dr. Erdogan (and Dr. Reddy since he was mentioned) is still doing outstanding work. In fact, Pat, the publisher of this community recently spoke with one of Dr. Erdogan’s staff and was very impressed by the work they are currently doing. I too have been impressed and the results presented both by patience and clinic on a regular basis are top notch. The truth is, the majority rules. What I mean by that is, the vast majority of results presented by his staff and patients online have been very impressive. My advice to the original poster is to keep their procedure with Dr. Erdogan as there is plenty of evidence demonstrating that he is still one of the best. However, if he does choose to back out, that’s totally his right however, if he paid a deposit, he may not get that back. Many surgeons don’t give deposit back so I’m just putting that out there as a general rule. However, in my opinion there is no reason to be concerned and I personally would choose Dr. Erdogan for my procedure in a heartbeat. Onwards and Upwards, Bill p.s. while people may disagree with certain aspects, let’s be a good example to the original poster and be professional and respectful when responding. He is trying to make a decision and ongoing drama is only going to push him further into confusion.
  15. 3 points
    To the topic creator. You shouldn't go to ASMED based on how you feel now. If you are filled with worry. You will always doubt your decision to go there. (This is not related to ASMED), but you will be doubting yourself for 6 months regardless of how it goes. I've lurked here for a while... And I basically agree with Legend. My personal opinion is for massively large FUE, he is probably the best especially when cost is taken into an account. If you need 4k-5k of grafts. And only want one transplant for a chance at an acceptable result. There's not a whole lot of choices. For hairline work he seems average for a good doctor (which is still good). But still relatively cheap. If you are the type that needs to be able to call the doctor to get feedback. He's definetely not the one to go to.If you want to feel special, or significant. He's also not the one to go to for that either.
  16. 3 points
    If guys with unrealistic expectations get put off, then I’ve done my job.
  17. 3 points
    Jean, I continued to get reports from various members claiming you are being a bully. I haven’t had time to read through this entire topic however, the fact that multiple members have reported this tells me that you must be saying something offensive or disingenuous. Therefore, I’m going to request once that you remain respectful especially since Melvin already had to comment about this. You’ve been a member for a while And I certainly appreciate your contributions. However, we do expect the members to respect one another and not unfairly malign one another or their doctors. Your Cooperation his anticipated and appreciated. Best, Bill
  18. 3 points
    Guys, In order to keep this environment fair, we must remain respectful, please keep the insults off this board. While we are free to voice our opinions about a certain result. Always remember that result is attached to a person, how would any of you feel if your results were being insulted? Yes, the doctor is posting on a public forum and is opening himself to scrutiny, but you never know id the patient frequents this forum. A simple “inadequate density” or “unsatisfactory result” response would suffice. Pelodinero, I have received a complaint from another member about you being negative and insulting, so this will be my warning to you. If I receive any further complaints I will be forced to suspend your posting privileges. We’re all adults here, lets treat eachother with respect. If you don’t like the results that’s fine, if you don’t believe in Artas that’s also fine, but lets stay objective and non-insulting. Warm regards- Melvin
  19. 3 points
    Rahal just recently quoted me $6 a FUE graft for the first 2500 and $4.25 a graft for any grafts over the 2500 and that includes all future grafts and yes this definitely is in Canadian dollars as they stressed the point that the USD to CAN exchange right now will save me some serious dollars
  20. 3 points
    It doesn't actually look too bad from this angle, considering that the growth looks fairly even I think it could still improve hugely. I know you're a week behind 6 months but here's my 5 month, doesn't look much better: 9 months - final result:
  21. 3 points
    Barbaric? What are you talking about? Have you ever seen a C-section before? Or maybe Open heart surgery? Brain surgery to cut out tumors? If you think an elective FUT strip procedure is barbaric, then I wonder what you think of the others I mentioned. What about LASIK where they cut a flap in your eyeball, lift it, and then zap away at your eyeball using a laser. Get real man, FUT is nowhere near barbaric. Is it gruesome, sure, but it works with minimal risk of any king of injury or complication, and there are plenty of more gruesome medical procedure. Calling this form of modern medicane that transforms the lives of many men for the better is extremely disrespectful to the surgeons out there who make it happen.
  22. 3 points
    This is a very interesting question and I congratulate for your keen sense of observation. That boundary zone can be treated in accordance with two philosophies : the first is the "prudent", the most orthodox, taught everywhere and which consists in leaving one or two centimetres not exploited between the donor and recipient areas. There are two main reasons to act in this way : to not use hair potentially unstable and, furthermore, to not create scars in a zone potentially balding. This modus operandi presents however a big inconvenient, mostly when performing a second (or further) FUE : in fact, it creates a no man's land between the donor and recipient areas having an original density - which is often ungraceful, especially when the patient wears his hair very short - that resembles a halo all around the skull, often called fringe. The second philosophy, which I tend to apply when the patient wears his hair very short and/or it is about a second (or further) surgery, consists in ending the extraction in a progressive way, approaching the recipient area as much as possible. Obviously, it is difficult to be certain about the boundaries between the donor and recipient areas. However, at worst, we will have transferred a limited amount of unstable grafts. In this specific case, we were practically obliged because of the patient's safe donor limitations (more than 5000 FUE grafts already extracted). I never had the need to treat a scarring issue in that area but, if it happened, it would be simple to solve by transplanting some hairs taken from the lower area. Thank you for your comments, much appreciated. Medrol was prescribed to this patient.
  23. 3 points
    Thanks Newhair and Literalno. I will give it a shot for you Literalno haha Temple points blend in completely naturally in all situations. I get comments about how well I am looking but no one has had the courage to mention the hair specifically yet lol. For me, and I'm sure many others, self image is why we pursue hair surgery - the new frame to my face has completely changed the way I look, I actually look ten years younger and in turn feel it. The new confidence has enhanced my professional life in terms of networking and motivation. Personally, the list is long but ultimately it's that inner contentment which allows me to enjoy life to the maximum and fulfil my potential. Although I have done well in life so far, hairloss has held me back and I have missed many opportunities as a result. Now the chains are off after around 13 years of battling and I can begin again feeling limitless, and man am I gonna smash it!
  24. 3 points
    @HairsHopingis only about 7 days out from his procedure. Give him the time to heal. Putting negative comments out there doesn't help him nor will it inspire him or others to post. What's done is done so be supportive of the patient. Everyone who has had a procedure typically has a roller coaster of emotions.. did I go to the right doctor..did I get enough grafts.. did I sleep the right way.. am I taking enough precautions.. the list is endless. Most patients won't find support from knowledgeable ppl in their real lives so they come here for support. So as members on this board, give him the support he needs now and the support he will need over the months to come.
  25. 3 points
    Hey hairshoping .. thanks for sharing ur ht journey. I’m sure u n ur doctor discussed a game plan for u.. the graft count is low for a high Norwood .. but hey u already said there’s potential for a future transplant next year, to add density n address and maybe address the crown also .. - n also what gas was saying wasn’t too negative or anything , he had good intentions .. it just made the op feel uncomfortable, he just had surgery , last thing he wants is to second guess his doctor .. keep us updated on ur progress.. thanks