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Old 03-12-2018, 10:12 PM
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I've been a long time lurker on this site now for about 5 years now, I never really posted anything I just came on here to look at results by different surgeons. My story goes I got a HT at the age of just 21. I know I was way to young to have a transplant at that age and the doctors shouldn't of preformed the surgery but I didn't at the time have a great understanding of the way hair transplant worked and what looks natural, density etc. I just seen a great deal for 1000 grafts and went for it I wanted to lower my hairline at the time which was a mistake.

So after 5 years of endless research and looking to which surgeon to pick I narrowed it down to IOH in Istanbul and HLC in Ankara, I got quoted 2700grafts by both, In the end I picked Institute of Hair (IOH) all though they are only a new clinic any results I found were top class and the price was only €1.50 per graft and when I found out IOH only do manual FUE it was a no brainier i always found judging results online manual FUE left the donor scaring smaller and a overall better result just my opinion. The surgeon and all the technicians form IOH worked in ASMED before leaving and setting up IOH. I emailed the clinic before xmas and was booked in for March 8th-10th 2018

March 8th
I arrived in ataturk airport on a thursday and I drove to the clinic, When I got there I met Cagla who I was emailing back and forth over the past few months. She basically set up everything for me she was the coordinator. She really made me feel welcome I couldn't of asked for a nicer coordinator she was fantastic. So after she showed me around I met the surgeon and the technicians. Elif and Mustafa were the surgeons. Elif was the leader though she started making out the measurements on my head and telling me what she can do to repair my old HT I got and that i needed to bring the hairline back in order to get a more natural look and that i needed 2700grafts. Bloods were taking and My Pictures were taking and then the part I was dreading shaving my head. After all that the surgery was the next day at 7am I was driven back to my hotel were I was staying at the double tree by the Hilton.

March 9th
I got collected form the hotel and then drove to the clinic, started the operation at 8am, they gave me local anesthesia to the back of the head, It wasn't painful it just felt weird after 10mins i couldn't feel a thing. Elif began manual extracting the hair form the back of my head it was painless,Elif didnt extract any grafts were i had the previous transplant as it was already noticeable and i didn't want any grafts taking form there you can see in the picture below. At around 12:30pm I stopped for lunch. At 1pm they continued to manual extract the grafts and the grafts that needed to come out form my old HT as you can see below in the pictures the tiny red dots just below my hairline. After all that local anesthesia was injected into the top of my head again it wasn't painful it just felt really weird. Then Elif began to punch the canals for the transplanted hair and after that Elif and Mustafa began to place the transplanted hair into the canals the operation was over at 6:30pm. After all that i went back to the hotel.

March 10th
Checked out of the hotel, drove to the clinic for the first wash and they explained to me what to do and how to wash my hair they gave me a bunch of stuff to take and use as in shampoo etc. Drove to the airport then and back home I went.

Overall 2700 grafts were planted price was €1.50 per graft. It was manual FUE, The experience was amazing, and I will update you every month on my progression.
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:11 AM
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definitely keep updating this, I've been waiting to see some works from this clinic. Having the asmed training system behind them should lead to some good results. What are they using to implant, are they using the keep system that Erdogan is running now?
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:49 AM
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definitely keep updating this, I've been waiting to see some works from this clinic. Having the asmed training system behind them should lead to some good results. What are they using to implant, are they using the keep system that Erdogan is running now?
Whats the keep system ?
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:10 AM
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Whats the keep system ?
lol isn't Erdogan your first choice, shouldn't you know this by now?

Keep is the the Koray Erdogan Embedding placer or something like that. The theory behind it is, Docs like Lorenzo get incredible yields because of the implanter pen he uses being gentler on the grafts than traditional forceps. The downside was that implanter pens supposedly couldn't get the natural hair angles that slits could so Keep basically is a hybrid of the 2, they use slits to make channels and hold the grafts in the gentler pen system and place them in. The implanter pen that most of the spanish docs use is a one step process, they punch the hole and embed the hair in one motion where keep is a 2 step approach taking both of the best elements from each approach.
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Check out Dr. Erdoganís ASMED YouTube channel. Thereís a video there that shows you exactly what it does if you need a visual representation.

Just type, ĎASMED Dr. Koray Erdoganí, in the search bar if you havenít already. Good information there. Erdoganís and Lorenzoís YouTube pages are great for not just video diaries of patient results but also information regarding the use of technique, equipment used, graft management, different types of mpb, etc.

Give it a look. The more you know, right?
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:38 PM
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Iím very excited to follow this thread! Looking forward to your updates!!
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Do they examine manually extracted grafts under a micrscope to ensure that grafts that look like 1 haired-follicles are truly 1 haired-follicles?

If a clinic doesn't use a micrscope AFTER extraction - MANY apparent 1 haired-follicles really contain 2 hairs (without using a micrscope). A magnification loop nor the naked eye is good enough to spot lurking 2 haired-follicles that look like 1 haired ones.
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:36 PM
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following your updates. They have very honest pictures and videos on youtube. Sometimes they use alot of grafts in a small area and the result is not that thick.. Have you watched all their videos?
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Do they examine manually extracted grafts under a micrscope to ensure that grafts that look like 1 haired-follicles are truly 1 haired-follicles?

If a clinic doesn't use a micrscope AFTER extraction - MANY apparent 1 haired-follicles really contain 2 hairs (without using a micrscope). A magnification loop nor the naked eye is good enough to spot lurking 2 haired-follicles that look like 1 haired ones.
This isn't entirely true, a few maybe but many not even close. You would have to have insanely bad luck for most of your 2 hairs to be half in a telogen phase and presenting themselves as singles. Joe just over hypes this point as another reason his fue doc should be your choice as he knows most of the top fue Euro docs don't use them. Talk to joe and he'll also tell you why the coverage value systems are bad and on and on, he's about his bottom line, there is some element of truth to what he's saying but he overstates how much of an issue it really is. Erdogans clinic doesn't use microscopes so I doubt this clinic does either and if it were really an issue they wouldn't be knocking out the hairlines they are (speaking of asmed as I dont know iohs work well enough), they'd look clunky with doubles and triples masquerading as singles.
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Yea it was the keep method, IOH are also able to perform Long Hair FUE aswell Eilf and Mustafa are very talented. I was never really a fan of the choi pen implanter though.
You can't argue the yields with the pens, it's consistently yielding high numbers, there is something to the gentler action on the grafts. Good to know about keep.
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