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Old 10-12-2017, 12:09 PM
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I need an hair transplant with around 5,000 grains
Do I have any scars after the hair transplant in a case that I think to shave my head?
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You mean 5,000 grafts?
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All surgery leaves scarring, mitigating it with expert tools and techniques in the hands of experienced professional surgeons is the key.

An FUT will leave a linear scar at the back of your head that will be evident if you shave your head.

And an FUE will leave pock mark scar tissues all over your head that will be visible if you shave your head.

The real questions is, if you're getting a hair transplant, why would you shave your head?
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And for anyone to have 5,000 grafts via strip in one session would be nearly impossible unless they had way above average density and laxity. If considering FUHT, best to have several sessions to reach 5,000 grafts.

And consider 5,000 FUE extractions...very doubtful that the individual would be able to buzz down to a short hair style without there being some noticeable scarring.
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And for anyone to have 5,000 grafts via strip in one session would be nearly impossible unless they had way above average density and laxity. If considering FUHT, best to have several sessions to reach 5,000 grafts.

And consider 5,000 FUE extractions...very doubtful that the individual would be able to buzz down to a short hair style without there being some noticeable scarring.
Indeed, the myth of a scarless procedure needs to be extinguished in full. It is an irresponsible piece of salesmanship by some clinics, thankfully none recommended on this forum to my knowledge.
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When FUE really began to proliferate in North America, there were some clinics calling it "scar less FUE"...yet anytime that tissue is cut (excisions) or removed (extractions), scar tissue is going to form to repair those wounds. And anyone stating otherwise is straight out lying, period.

And although a linear scar from strip harvesting can be more obvious to the naked eye, the spotted scarring from FUE is just another type of scarring that forms...but make no mistake about it...it does form.
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My Hair Loss Story
I started losing hair at a very young age of 24. Slight thinning of hair on the top and receding hairline at the front. Then rapidly started losing hair over the next 2-3 years with no control. I then started looking into hair transplants which was the new thing in 1996 as traditional medications had major side effects like minoxidil etc. I had the treatments below hair transplants in the early days when it all started and results were not bad for the time as the technology was very new. I still was losing hair as I was still young and to be honest made a plunge to early in my life into transplants as you still continue you lose hair until you are approx. 40 years old.
I had two FUT surgeries in Wimpole Street Clinic by Mr May and my last FUT surgery with doctor Humayun in Pakistan for some corrective surgery and to fill up the gaps made by loss of hair over the past 10-year gap in surgeries.
I was not to impressed with the UK results so started looking out of the box and researched online and found Dr Humayun in Pakistan in November 2008. I being confident on Dr Humayun's work after my research and reviews online as by this time the WWW era was here and made it a lot easier to find overseas doctors and the patient review?s so finally I decided to go for it and was hoping for better results than the UK as it had been 10 years and technology had moved on. The surgery cost around ?1100 at the time inclusive accommodation which is not the best.
After the surgery the work seemed good and I was happy with the new hairline and corrective surgery and was eager to see the final results 12 months on. The overall experience of having surgery done in Pakistan was a pleasant one and his team was excellent and I would highly recommend their service to anyone thinking of having hair surgery in Pakistan. His team were suburb and handled everything from airport pick up to the hotel to even food!! They really knew what customer service is and I flew in from UK and back on a plane in a gap of 48 hours, I did not have any swelling, infections or any problems with the surgery and 10 days after surgery visited my GP (doctor) in London UK to have the stitches removed and he commented on the clean work and the scar to the donor area, saying this scar is hardly noticeable and has been done very professionally which gave me a great boost of confidence on his work yet again as I have not been able to see the scar myself, and a comment like this coming from another doctor say's everything!!
So now eight years on and more natural hair loss and technology has moved on from FUT to FUE and even more advanced to robotic implants I started all over on my research into new technology and the best and most affordable place to have surgery done.

Background on the Two Main Procedures

The two main procedures that are emerging as the most successful are Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) and Follicular Unit Transplant (FUT). They are both essentially a form of transplant from existing hair follicles but there are significant differences. The most important factor in both methods is keeping the hair follicle unit healthy and intact.
FUE takes singular or small clusters of follicles from an area of strong healthy hair which is then prepared for transplant in the balding area. This process requires superb skills by the surgeon and can even be conducted by doctor-directed robotics technology.
FUT involves the removal of an area of skin with a crop of healthy hair. Also known as a graft, this harvesting-style method is similar to laying grass turfs for an even lawn! The downside to this practice is the risk of scarring.
What people are finding so good about these two ways of hair restoration is that the hair follicles behave as they would have in their previous location. This means that the results are long lasting and they may not experience repeated hair loss in the recovered area until they become very old or their genetic chances are complete and rapid balding at a young age.

PRP therapy is used in hair restoration for natural looking results
With a thin needle, your own Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) is injected into the scalp. Then the growth factors in your blood cells do their job and hair growth is naturally stimulated.
PRP Hair Restoration is suitable for both men and women. It is a state of the art, non-surgical, totally natural, alternative medical procedure used for the treatment of hair loss or hair thinning. It is an injectable treatment which uses the patient?s own blood.
Our blood plasma (PRP) contains active growth factors which can promote hair growth. Helping to restore one?s confidence, the end result is a fuller, healthier looking head of hair.
The cost of PRP hair treatment can be considerable, as more sessions may be needed to obtain the desired result.
PRP is also being used in conjunction with some hair transplant procedures.
Over the past decade traveling abroad for medical treatment has become very common and it seemed like a good idea again to look overseas then UK as results here are not the best. So extensive research and Istanbul kept popping up again and again. Not just hair transplants but for many different types of surgeries from teeth whitening to Hip Transplants.
Turkey has now over 500 Hair Transplant clinics so in this maze how and who to choose was the big questions.
I looked and hundreds of reviews and sites like ?What Clinic? which are sponsored site by doctors so they were more adverts and not review?s.
Another site was ?realself.com? which has true reviews by patients that have actually undergone the surgery so started looking on there.
Of course, I looked on ?hairrestorationnetwork.com? but very little about doctors in Turkey and they seem to be more focused on USA & UK doctors which was to expensive as the cost of say 4000 grafts in UK is approx. ?7000-?10,000 whilst compared to Istanbul ?1300 - ?1700 inclusive of 5* Hotel and Transfers. So, it is a no brainer!
There are many institutions that vet doctors and some of the leading ones in this field are ISHRS (International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery for Hair Loss and Baldness) IAHRS (Hair Transplant | IAHRS Hair Restoration Surgeons) & ABHRS (https://abhrs.org) and one should read up on these sites to gain more knowledge and see if the doctor you are going with is recognised and approved by these international organisations. Doctors recognised by these organisations in Turkey will be about 10-20% on the more expensive side but I suggest you go with them and not let cost be a factor on such an important surgery as results will speak for them self.
I contacted around 20 clinics in Istanbul and now with the use of WhatsApp made life much easier sending images and getting instant response?s.
My search after hours of chatting on WhatsApp boiled down to a few names.
1. Dr Emrah Cinik
2. Dr Gokhan Gur
3. Dr Hasan Findik
4. MCAN Clinic
5. Clinic Centre
6. Vera Clinic
So, after I avoided the bottom three as they are clinic agencies just selling you a transplants and I wanted to be talking to a Doctors practice directly and not a third party. Which then narrowed my search down to the top two names.
Dr Emrah Cinik reviews kept popping up everywhere and many were within last few weeks so that tempted me to contact a patient directly and after talking about his experience bingo I decided he was the man for the job.
I spoke to the clinic directly and booked with Ozlem (+90 542 234 0034) Dr Cinik assistance who took care of everything once I had sent her a copy of my confirmed Airline ticket on Turkish Airlines (my choice) and first time I used the airline but must say excellent service and new planes.
The package cost was 1990 Euro?s for maximum grafts and that would also include the new PRP treatment and donor hair from chest and beard area including 5 Star hotel two nights and all transfers from airport, hotel, clinic etc.
Booked for 10th October 2017 and decided for extra two days in Istanbul to do sightseeing before the operation.
Landed on 7th October 2017 by Turkish Airlines and met by Saleem the driver at the airport and driven to the Grand Cevahir Hotel, Sisli, Istanbul by an exec Mercedes Vito Van, had till Monday afternoon free to explore the city as I wish as my appointment was at 2.30pm to meet Dr Cinik.
I was picked up on the day by Saleem again and taken to the clinic and met Dr Cinik and from there it was all like clockwork.
Meeting / Consultation lasted about 10-15 mins where he spoke about what I wanted and what he can do realistically. Asked all medical questions and then started planning hairlines and taking before images. Blood samples taken for test and PRP treatment.
Paperwork then got done and consent form signed and payment made for surgery. (up to this point no deposit or payment had been requested)
Once that was done walked towards the hair prep area to clip of all existing hair and wash. After that to the operating room and change of clothes and footwear and prepared for surgery.
The next 10 minutes are the worst for me as I hate needles which is the part where local aesthetic is injected in to the head and after that you really have no pain what so ever.
Operation lasted approx. 8 hours in total and was painless throughout.
After operation recovery was about 30-45 minutes then driven back to hotel. Next morning again picked up for a check-up and removal of bandage?s and then the following day your first hair wash and ready to fly back home.
Your first few nights of sleeping are not painful but uncomfortable as you need to sleep on your back but apart from that no issues.
Today is my day 6 and so far, NO bleeding, oozing, swelling or infections so very happy as swelling og the head is very common in hair transplants.
A very professional and well organised set up by Dr Emrah Cinik and I can highly recommend their service to anyone if Istanbul is the place you want your transplant.
Follow my blog for up to date progress on this surgery.
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1600 grafts FUT Mr May (UK) February 1998

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2475 grafts FUT Dr Mohammed Humayun Mohmand (Pakistan)

27th January 2009

http://www.hti.com.pk

3550 Total Grafts (3000 rear donor area & 400 from beard and 150 breast area) FUE & PRP Treatment with Dr Emrah Cinik (ISHRS), Istanbul, Turkey. 10th October 2017

http://www.emrahcinik.com/

My Blog & Hair loss website story:

https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.co...asp?WebID=1123
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My Hair Loss Story
I started losing hair at a very young age of 24. Slight thinning of hair on the top and receding hairline at the front. Then rapidly started losing hair over the next 2-3 years with no control. I then started looking into hair transplants which was the new thing in 1996 as traditional medications had major side effects like minoxidil etc. I had the treatments below hair transplants in the early days when it all started and results were not bad for the time as the technology was very new. I still was losing hair as I was still young and to be honest made a plunge to early in my life into transplants as you still continue you lose hair until you are approx. 40 years old.
I had two FUT surgeries in Wimpole Street Clinic by Mr May and my last FUT surgery with doctor Humayun in Pakistan for some corrective surgery and to fill up the gaps made by loss of hair over the past 10-year gap in surgeries.
I was not to impressed with the UK results so started looking out of the box and researched online and found Dr Humayun in Pakistan in November 2008. I being confident on Dr Humayun's work after my research and reviews online as by this time the WWW era was here and made it a lot easier to find overseas doctors and the patient review?s so finally I decided to go for it and was hoping for better results than the UK as it had been 10 years and technology had moved on. The surgery cost around ?1100 at the time inclusive accommodation which is not the best.
After the surgery the work seemed good and I was happy with the new hairline and corrective surgery and was eager to see the final results 12 months on. The overall experience of having surgery done in Pakistan was a pleasant one and his team was excellent and I would highly recommend their service to anyone thinking of having hair surgery in Pakistan. His team were suburb and handled everything from airport pick up to the hotel to even food!! They really knew what customer service is and I flew in from UK and back on a plane in a gap of 48 hours, I did not have any swelling, infections or any problems with the surgery and 10 days after surgery visited my GP (doctor) in London UK to have the stitches removed and he commented on the clean work and the scar to the donor area, saying this scar is hardly noticeable and has been done very professionally which gave me a great boost of confidence on his work yet again as I have not been able to see the scar myself, and a comment like this coming from another doctor say's everything!!
So now eight years on and more natural hair loss and technology has moved on from FUT to FUE and even more advanced to robotic implants I started all over on my research into new technology and the best and most affordable place to have surgery done.

Background on the Two Main Procedures

The two main procedures that are emerging as the most successful are Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) and Follicular Unit Transplant (FUT). They are both essentially a form of transplant from existing hair follicles but there are significant differences. The most important factor in both methods is keeping the hair follicle unit healthy and intact.
FUE takes singular or small clusters of follicles from an area of strong healthy hair which is then prepared for transplant in the balding area. This process requires superb skills by the surgeon and can even be conducted by doctor-directed robotics technology.
FUT involves the removal of an area of skin with a crop of healthy hair. Also known as a graft, this harvesting-style method is similar to laying grass turfs for an even lawn! The downside to this practice is the risk of scarring.
What people are finding so good about these two ways of hair restoration is that the hair follicles behave as they would have in their previous location. This means that the results are long lasting and they may not experience repeated hair loss in the recovered area until they become very old or their genetic chances are complete and rapid balding at a young age.

PRP therapy is used in hair restoration for natural looking results
With a thin needle, your own Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) is injected into the scalp. Then the growth factors in your blood cells do their job and hair growth is naturally stimulated.
PRP Hair Restoration is suitable for both men and women. It is a state of the art, non-surgical, totally natural, alternative medical procedure used for the treatment of hair loss or hair thinning. It is an injectable treatment which uses the patient?s own blood.
Our blood plasma (PRP) contains active growth factors which can promote hair growth. Helping to restore one?s confidence, the end result is a fuller, healthier looking head of hair.
The cost of PRP hair treatment can be considerable, as more sessions may be needed to obtain the desired result.
PRP is also being used in conjunction with some hair transplant procedures.
Over the past decade traveling abroad for medical treatment has become very common and it seemed like a good idea again to look overseas then UK as results here are not the best. So extensive research and Istanbul kept popping up again and again. Not just hair transplants but for many different types of surgeries from teeth whitening to Hip Transplants.
Turkey has now over 500 Hair Transplant clinics so in this maze how and who to choose was the big questions.
I looked and hundreds of reviews and sites like ?What Clinic? which are sponsored site by doctors so they were more adverts and not review?s.
Another site was ?realself.com? which has true reviews by patients that have actually undergone the surgery so started looking on there.
Of course, I looked on ?hairrestorationnetwork.com? but very little about doctors in Turkey and they seem to be more focused on USA & UK doctors which was to expensive as the cost of say 4000 grafts in UK is approx. ?7000-?10,000 whilst compared to Istanbul ?1300 - ?1700 inclusive of 5* Hotel and Transfers. So, it is a no brainer!
There are many institutions that vet doctors and some of the leading ones in this field are ISHRS (International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery for Hair Loss and Baldness) IAHRS (Hair Transplant | IAHRS Hair Restoration Surgeons) & ABHRS (https://abhrs.org) and one should read up on these sites to gain more knowledge and see if the doctor you are going with is recognised and approved by these international organisations. Doctors recognised by these organisations in Turkey will be about 10-20% on the more expensive side but I suggest you go with them and not let cost be a factor on such an important surgery as results will speak for them self.
I contacted around 20 clinics in Istanbul and now with the use of WhatsApp made life much easier sending images and getting instant response?s.
My search after hours of chatting on WhatsApp boiled down to a few names.
1. Dr Emrah Cinik
2. Dr Gokhan Gur
3. Dr Hasan Findik
4. MCAN Clinic
5. Clinic Centre
6. Vera Clinic
So, after I avoided the bottom three as they are clinic agencies just selling you a transplants and I wanted to be talking to a Doctors practice directly and not a third party. Which then narrowed my search down to the top two names.
Dr Emrah Cinik reviews kept popping up everywhere and many were within last few weeks so that tempted me to contact a patient directly and after talking about his experience bingo I decided he was the man for the job.
I spoke to the clinic directly and booked with Ozlem (+90 542 234 0034) Dr Cinik assistance who took care of everything once I had sent her a copy of my confirmed Airline ticket on Turkish Airlines (my choice) and first time I used the airline but must say excellent service and new planes.
The package cost was 1990 Euro?s for maximum grafts and that would also include the new PRP treatment and donor hair from chest and beard area including 5 Star hotel two nights and all transfers from airport, hotel, clinic etc.
Booked for 10th October 2017 and decided for extra two days in Istanbul to do sightseeing before the operation.
Landed on 7th October 2017 by Turkish Airlines and met by Saleem the driver at the airport and driven to the Grand Cevahir Hotel, Sisli, Istanbul by an exec Mercedes Vito Van, had till Monday afternoon free to explore the city as I wish as my appointment was at 2.30pm to meet Dr Cinik.
I was picked up on the day by Saleem again and taken to the clinic and met Dr Cinik and from there it was all like clockwork.
Meeting / Consultation lasted about 10-15 mins where he spoke about what I wanted and what he can do realistically. Asked all medical questions and then started planning hairlines and taking before images. Blood samples taken for test and PRP treatment.
Paperwork then got done and consent form signed and payment made for surgery. (up to this point no deposit or payment had been requested)
Once that was done walked towards the hair prep area to clip of all existing hair and wash. After that to the operating room and change of clothes and footwear and prepared for surgery.
The next 10 minutes are the worst for me as I hate needles which is the part where local aesthetic is injected in to the head and after that you really have no pain what so ever.
Operation lasted approx. 8 hours in total and was painless throughout.
After operation recovery was about 30-45 minutes then driven back to hotel. Next morning again picked up for a check-up and removal of bandage?s and then the following day your first hair wash and ready to fly back home.
Your first few nights of sleeping are not painful but uncomfortable as you need to sleep on your back but apart from that no issues.
Today is my day 6 and so far, NO bleeding, oozing, swelling or infections so very happy as swelling og the head is very common in hair transplants.
A very professional and well organised set up by Dr Emrah Cinik and I can highly recommend their service to anyone if Istanbul is the place you want your transplant.
Follow my blog for up to date progress on this surgery.
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