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Old 06-08-2018, 11:06 PM
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Wondering if there actually is a way to know with certainty if I have a miniaturization issue?

I've been consulting with Erdogan trying to schedule my procedure and he just keep shootings me down saying I have miniaturization issues I just don't get it ?

I've reviewed tons of his previous surgeries and I see people with way worse hair loss and much much thinner looking donor areas then mine that hes done

I've had a one on one inperson consult locally with a highly component HT doctor thats refereed here on this site and he said my donor area is good to go

These are the pictures i just sent to Erdogan for my last consult shot me down again?
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The hair on the back of my head grows thick like a jungle the light areas are not thinning just grey hairs

Whats to do next ?
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:06 AM
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R the patchy brown spots miniaturized hairs ? If not then I think ur donor is thick n strong enough for a decent transplant .. u do have some hairloss at the lower area .. retrograde alopecia.. but ur donor is a lot better than some others that had good results .. u be able to find a surgeon that be able to work with u ..
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Old 06-09-2018, 12:56 AM
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R the patchy brown spots miniaturized hairs ? If not then I think ur donor is thick n strong enough for a decent transplant .. u do have some hairloss at the lower area .. retrograde alopecia.. but ur donor is a lot better than some others that had good results .. u be able to find a surgeon that be able to work with u ..
Na I'm old and gray been coloring it for like 20yrs already the patchy brown spots are just gray showing through
I'm sure I have defused and maybe some retrograde alopecia but miniaturized hairs I don't know about that ?

So before I totally give up on Erdogan I was thinking it might be worth a try to find out for sure one way or another and if i don't and theirs a way to show him in black and white it might help my case to change his mind ?

Is that possible and what would be the best way to do that ?
Is there some test ?

Maybe its time to just give up on Erdogan
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Old 06-09-2018, 02:13 AM
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Why don't you try coloring your hair so that the donor has a uniform color. The fact that you have grey patches throughout your donor may be making the donor area appear as if it has thinning patches in the photos.

You could also try taking a few videos of your donor zone in an area with natural lighting, and send them in to the clinics you are considering, instead of photos. There are different sites that will allow you to upload content and share it via a link.

Finally, you have some of the very best Doctors in the world in the US who produce incredibly natural results. Dr. Gabel, Drs. Ron and Paul Shapiro, Dr. Konior to name a few. Why not consider one of them for your surgery?
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:13 AM
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Here's what I would do: Color your hair so it's all one color and then have someone take a video doing a comb-through of your donor area.
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Old 06-09-2018, 07:22 PM
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Thanks for the replies feeling a little lost right now really appreciate the help

Next time I color my hair I plan to take some new pictures and do the comb-through video thing and maybe I'll also go back to the local HT doctor here in South Florida and talk to him more specifically about the miniaturization and have him take a second look ?

I'm pretty sure I'm needing atleast 3000 graphs with Erdogan it would definitely be atleast 5k
US Doctors like Konior and Gabel are booked super busy I really wanted to get this done with in the next 6months and also there pricing is a bit over the top I think for me to get the density I'd like I might be looking at close to 25 to 30k crazy don't want to spent that much

It really took me along time on the forums to finally settle on a doctor and I'm really struggling again now to settle on an comparable alternative to Erdogan
Leaning towards Dr Kyriakos Maras HDC today good choice ?
other suggestions please chime in ?

I also emailed my pictures to Dr.Yaman , Dr.Karadeniz , The Hairline Clinic (HLC), Dr.Cinik anyone I'm missing ?

Heres what Dr. Cinik's people had to say about Erdogan below

Koray Erdogan is choosing his patients and is only accepting patients where he knows that they will have 100 % results, he is rejecting a lot of patients.as we are not as worried in our reputation as him but more for are patients satisfaction, we would do your transplant and are sure that you ll achieve great results.
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Old 06-11-2018, 02:05 AM
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Some updated donor area pictures.

How would you rate?
I say good enough

I've seen people with alot worse donors areas then mine go through and have multiple procedures

Link to my donor area comb through video So thick can hardly get a comb through it
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Did the doctor microscopically examine your donor zone? And even if he did not, it's possible that he noticed some level of diffused loss or miniaturization in the donor area whereby he concluded that the area is DHT receptive.

I really can't think of any other reasons why he would have the opinion he has expressed.

There will always be doctors who will be willing to do a procedure even if they see that the donor hair is not stable.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:58 PM
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My Local HT doctor put on his magnifying glasses and sifted through the back of my head and said no problems there your donor area is looking good

I've sent my pictures already to many of the doctors recommended on this site and not one other then Erdogan sees any miniaturization issues in the donor area ?


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Did the doctor microscopically examine your donor zone? And even if he did not, it's possible that he noticed some level of diffused loss or miniaturization in the donor area whereby he concluded that the area is DHT receptive.

I really can't think of any other reasons why he would have the opinion he has expressed. Who are you referring to Erdogan or my local doctor ? They say Erdogan is picky only excepting patents that hes 100% sure of more worried about his reputation

There will always be doctors who will be willing to do a procedure even if they see that the donor hair is not stable.
After seeing my donor pictures and video whats your opinion you have alot of HT experience here
Do you think Dr. Jim Harris, Denver, CO - Dr. Robert True & Dr. Robert Dorin would turn me down ?

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Old 06-11-2018, 11:45 PM
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If your local doctor says your donor hair is looking good and healthy then I think its time to give up on Erdogan!!
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