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Old 05-05-2018, 12:37 AM
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Default 3038 Grafts FUE / ASMED - Koray Erdogan / 30th April

Hi Everybody.

I have previously had a 3000 graft FUE at ASMED 12 months ago, linked here:

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.co...pril-10th.html

Overall very satisfied with the results from the first procedure, but still wanted to address the crown which was previously untouched, as well as density issues in some areas of the previous transplant, and create a slightly more aggressive hairline with more youthful closure at the temples, including an alteration to the overall design.

Some background on my situation, I was initially a NW3V diffusing in a NW5 pattern that is very noticeable when wet but not an issue dry and with longer hair, 22 years old at the time, and had stabilised on finasteride. First procedure was solely for the hairline and created a slightly conservative NW 1.5-2 with 3070 grafts. My donor had roughly 9500 grafts to begin with and I am left with potentially another 2000-3000 after the second procedure, but the clinic suggested this is impossible to know for sure unless it is analysed 12 months down the track.

In online consult 2000-2500 grafts were suggested for crown and frontal work, but in person Koray thought 3000 would be worthwhile to create a significant improvement in both the crown frontal third. Ultimately suggesting 1500 in the frontal third and 1500 in the crown. He also seemed impressed with the standard of my donor after the first procedure.

Some stats on the second procedure:

3038 grafts – Hair/Graft ratio: 2.1 (quite a bit lower than the first time round)
Average Hair Thickness – 50 microns


Singles - 557
Doubles - 1709
Triples - 697
Quadruples - 74
Quintuples - 1
Sextuples - 0

Minor points, this time I stayed at the hotel rather than the clinic and preferred it quite a bit. Very comfortable and calming, good food for very cheap prices and there's a lot of options for places to visit a quick walk away also. That said the clinic room was very convenient. Of course as with last time the clinic staff and my clinic supervisor were very accommodating. A few have mentioned forgetting to covert some Euros to Lira upon arrival to Istanbul, the clinic was happy to convert right there and for a good rate too, so don't worry about doing so at the airport.

Another point, from a front view and in dimmer lighting the very tight buzz the clinic bring the hair down to reflected that the previous work looked very natural and had no visible density issues, although from a top view seen in the clinic photos there's a noticeable difference in density between the areas with natives and those previously implanted. Noticed the same in cases like Yas and acegik who both went for 2nd procedures at ASMED, although not a huge issue unless you're planning to constantly having people looking at the top of your scalp. The donor scarring from the first procedure was also clearly visible when the scalp was buzzed to a zero, not that this is a problem or unexpected as one shouldn't go in assuming FUE is scarless or that they could get away with a buzz that tight to begin with. Just a point to note.

Hair was in significant need of a cut when going in for photos, so note it also didn't look its best by any means

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Old 05-05-2018, 12:48 AM
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Before photos

Unfortunately no good dry pics of the hairline as they left the hair down for some reason.
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Old 05-05-2018, 01:12 AM
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Keep us updated jean.. wishin u the best.. u Should have good results .. n thanks for sharing ur hair transplant knowledge .. I learned a few things from ya .. happy growin bro ..
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Keep us updated jean.. wishin u the best.. u Should have good results .. n thanks for sharing ur hair transplant knowledge .. I learned a few things from ya .. happy growin bro ..
Many thanks, and I wish the same for your results when you finally get around to having yours done
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Congratulations on your new procedure, I trust you’ll be satisfied with your results for many years to come great choice with Dr. Erdogan.
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Jean, looking great.

You are clearly a controversial figure in this Forum, due to your age (and the amount of grafts) and your outspoken personality, but without you this Forum would be lesser in many ways.

Very brave to adress you personal goals and I wish you the best that you can achieve what you are looking for. Personally I would not have lowered the hairline further. But I am also older which maybe changes the perspective.

Grow well and thank you for your support.
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JeanLDD,

Consider 5mg-10mg oral minox once daily long term, PRP w/Acell on a regular basis, hair laser helmet & switching to dut for the future if you want to keep most of that existing hair for another 15-20 years.

I'm sure you will be making good money in your future and are well researched going forward.

Happy growing!
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JeanLDD,

Consider 5mg-10mg oral minox once daily long term, PRP w/Acell on a regular basis, hair laser helmet & switching to dut for the future if you want to keep most of that existing hair for another 15-20 years.

I'm sure you will be making good money in your future and are well researched going forward.

Happy growing!
Tried topical minox for a few months and had breathing issues with it so no option for oral, no trustworthy options for PRP in my country and I'm sceptical of efficacy, as with laser.

If it was evident I was going backwards I'd probably up my dose of finasteride first, and also try concealer if I felt it was necessary. At this point the majority of the frontal third is all transplants, so concealer only on midscalp and crown less of an issue. Also if the midscalp and crown did start thinning more at least I have the benefit of a few grafts in that area. Wouldn't say no to future transplants, or perhaps SMP for the illusion of more density when grown out, just not considering it right now.
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Jean, looking great.

You are clearly a controversial figure in this Forum, due to your age (and the amount of grafts) and your outspoken personality, but without you this Forum would be lesser in many ways.

Very brave to adress you personal goals and I wish you the best that you can achieve what you are looking for. Personally I would not have lowered the hairline further. But I am also older which maybe changes the perspective.

Grow well and thank you for your support.
Understandable point on the hairline. My thought was that the slight alteration was possible with only around 800 or so grafts which ultimately wouldn't make a significant impact on my options, but would let me avoid keeping the issue on my mind going forward in the medium term. At this point the design is exactly how I want it to be, which regardless of any micro density issues that inevitable pop up when implanting into virgin scalp was preferable to me than getting the previous area absolutely perfect. It's also hard on a first run through when looking at a buzzed head to know exactly how you want the design, and I didn't feel I had it optimal the first time round so adjustment was necessary. I've seen Spanker say there's no such thing as an emergency hair transplant, but from day 1 my plan was a first that was exactly that, but do so slightly conservatively, with a second slightly more aggressive approach like Yas opted for to get the situation off the mind for the medium term without any second thoughts down the track.

Thank you, many tend of opt for the opposite but I've always felt that with hairloss being a very sensitive and difficult issue for people it's better to aggressively (often literally) push an objective and analytical approach to things without any treading on eggshells. Obviously I'm a higher risk case than most and I doubt many other top surgeons would have gone through with this, but considering the money and time were there I'd have ultimately regretted not attempting to fix the issue to the greatest possible extent. A very strong donor, no thinning or family history beyond NW5 helps too.Obviously no guarantee, but a yield in the ball park of the last procedure should still put me in a very comfortable position going forward with donor to spare.
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