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Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP) Discuss the increasingly popular Scalp Micropigmentation (SMP) procedure here, including the advantages, disadvantages and possible long term effects.

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Old 09-14-2017, 10:15 AM
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https://www.nhs.uk/news/lifestyle-an...d-lymph-nodes/

Let me tell you a little about my story because I think it is important to share. I am not a doctor nor am I accusing anyone or anything for situation I am in. We discussed this in the past so now with this article I think its important I share it again.
As many of you know I have been fighting cancer for the last 5 years and had two bone marrow transplants and presently doing a trials as my cancer has returned for the third time.
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2012 did SMP roughly 6 months later got Lymphoma
2015 did another session of SMP after being cancer free roughly 4-6 months later cancer came back.
At that time I did not put the possibility this could be connected but with time I started thinking this could be a possibility. I am not saying this caused my cancer but I can not say it did not. Talking with doctor many say this could be the case but it is impossible to prove because there are many reason people get cancer. In my situation there is not an obvious reason. .If I knew this could happen I would have still done SMP at the beginning but not once I already had cancer. Even if this is the case maybe the percentage is very low. Again I am not saying SMP caused cancer because I do not know but just wanted to share my story so people have as much information as possible.
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Lorenzo, I hope your doing ok with your fight against cancer. This is what concerns me about SMP. As you said it is hard to prove that SMP gave you cancer but what a coincidence it happened to you months after you got SMP done both times. Did you get permanent or temporary SMP?

I've already had permanent SMP put into 2 old strip scars but I'm very hesitant about getting my scalp done.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:28 PM
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Firstly, I am very sorry you are going through this. I would like to shed some light on this, however. In reading the study you posted, the researchers focused on inorganic toxic pigments for this study. Depending on the provider whom applied your SMP-MS (scalp micropigmenation multi-session), it is possible that they used conventional tattoo inks which in fact can contain toxins such as aluminium, chromium, iron, nickel and copper as mentioned in the article.

When you opted for your first application in 2012, this was a very dangerous year for scalp micropigmentation. How many "sessions" did you have? Hundreds of new companies were emerging rapidly due to the high profit margin in this field. Most had no previous experience in any form of tattooing and opted for cheap supplies and pigments off such places as EBay. I would suspect this is what could have happened to you. Someone with no knowledge of the proper pigments and their ingredients wanting to make a quick profit and you are the one suffering the consequences.

On another note, I have been a tattoo artist for over 40 years, learning the craft in Thailand and Hong Kong. In all these years, I have never had a customer with any type of reaction to any pigments and certainly no one that I am aware have developed Lymphoma. And yes, I tattooed with the old style tattoo inks that did contain heavy metals. Perhaps with your immune system, you could have had this reaction to pigments with metal toxins.

But then I developed my own organic line in 1989 when I started offering permanent cosmetics. These are the same base pigments that I have been using in my scalp micropigmentation system since 2009. 18 percent of our bodies are carbon, and my pigments are all carbon-based. None of my scalp pigments contain heavy metals. And again, no reactions.

When you opted again in 2015 for more SMP-MS, how many sessions did you have at that time? Was it the same company/person? If you can PM me with the name of the provider, I may be able to give you some more answers. But I certainly would not want you to post the name(s) of the providers here.

Again,I am sorry you are going through this. Scalp micropigmentation is completely safe provided one does their due diligence when seeking a properly trained and experienced tech. However, I am now seeing many problems associated with the multi-session applications developing scarring after application after application every several years. Many of these scalps are no longer able to accept pigment because of the scarring that has developed. I have a blog article specific to this concern on my website. Regardless of where it is on the body, a tattoo cannot be applied over and over in the same place after many years. This is why I developed my one-session, permanent application.
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Lorenzo, I hope your doing ok with your fight against cancer. This is what concerns me about SMP. As you said it is hard to prove that SMP gave you cancer but what a coincidence it happened to you months after you got SMP done both times. Did you get permanent or temporary SMP?

I've already had permanent SMP put into 2 old strip scars but I'm very hesitant about getting my scalp done.
Thanks. I did temporary but after 5 years it is still there. Again I am not sure what caused my cancer but only saying this could be a possibility.

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When you opted for your first application in 2012, this was a very dangerous year for scalp micropigmentation. How many "sessions" did you have? Hundreds of new companies were emerging rapidly due to the high profit margin in this field. Most had no previous experience in any form of tattooing and opted for cheap supplies and pigments off such places as EBay. I would suspect this is what could have happened to you. Someone with no knowledge of the proper pigments and their ingredients wanting to make a quick profit and you are the one suffering the consequences
There used a temporary ink that was used by Milena in Italy for many years. Many places use her ink.
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Lorenzo, yes, Beauty Medical has been around although I know very little about them. I am not aware of any problems associated with those pigments. Who did your permanent application into your strip scars? There is no proven permanent application other than my patented System. SMP-MS companies claim "permanent," but in fact only last 5-7 years. To me, that is not permanent; permanent is lifetime.

I have also applied my System to many cancer/chemotherapy patients without any repercussions or reports of their cancer returning. I honestly believe it may be a coincidence coupled with your particular immune system. Again, I am sorry.
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Old 12-01-2017, 02:16 PM
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Mark I am only sharing my story. I am not blaming anyone. From what I have heard Beauty Medical is great company with no issues. I have met both Giorgio and Milena on a few occasions and they are great. Mine is temporary but after 4-5 years it is still there. That is the issue with temporary SMP you can not predict how long it last. My friends SMP only lasted 1 month.
If I read that SMP had a small chance of cancer before I did it, I would have still done it. This in no way is an attack on any company or on SMP but I think it is important to share my story.
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How they detected your cancer? I mean did you randomly go for scans ? Any symptoms ?
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My right side of lymph nodes became enlarged to the point I could no longer eat or talk.
After two failed bone marrow transplants I am doing a trial and have Pet Scan and Cscan every six weeks.
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Lorenzo, thanks for sharing your story and so sorry to hear about your cancer battle. Wishing you the very best for a successful outcome with your treatment and upcoming trials.
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Hey Lorenzo, I wish you a speedy recovery and hope everything works out for the best.

Again thanks for getting your story out there, whether or not there is definitive evidence of a direct link or not I think it's important to put this information out for caution's sake.
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