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Old 06-17-2017, 08:52 PM
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I was doing listening to some music on YouTube and Billy Joel's piano man came on, the video from 1885. He would have been 35 or 36. He looks like a norwood 2 working on 2.5. Nice hair. I looked a pic of him now and the dude is a nw7. Blew my mind. Lucky he didn't get a ht. This is example of super bad luck generics in terms of ht. Generally, 35-40 year old guys feel pretty safe about what type of hair loss they'll end up with. Thought it was interesting. Fin for life for me.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:58 PM
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I was doing listening to some music on YouTube and Billy Joel's piano man came on, the video from 1885. He would have been 35 or 36. He looks like a norwood 2 working on 2.5. Nice hair. I looked a pic of him now and the dude is a nw7. Blew my mind. Lucky he didn't get a ht. This is example of super bad luck generics in terms of ht. Generally, 35-40 year old guys feel pretty safe about what type of hair loss they'll end up with. Thought it was interesting. Fin for life for me.
Its all in the hair line, I remember when I was about 22 when I had loads of hair I mean loads of hair ,an uncle took it upon himself
to examine my hair -line he reckoned he was an expert on predicting if someone would go bald or not .lovely fella he was said 'Mick
you're not gonna keep it son ' and of course he was right ,as much hair as I had you could see the hair-line wasn't regular there was a slight jaggedness to it ,unlike my younger brother who had a perfect regular hairline and who still has a full head of hair at age 52
yep all in the hairline ,always remember those words 'You're not gonna keep it son'

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Just to add Im aged 54 now and I reckon my hair loss wasn't stable until I reached age 50, so even if you get to 40 with your hair doesn't mean you're going to keep it .


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Old 06-18-2017, 02:18 AM
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Yea. I notice a lot of guys in their 60's experience significant hair thinning and loss. A tough decade for the follicle I think. Unless you are one of the lucky ones.
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I was doing listening to some music on YouTube and Billy Joel's piano man came on, the video from 1885. ... Fin for life for me.
Well, poor guy is around 160 now, sure he will be a NW 7 ;-)

Jokes aside, my father is a difusse thinner (that is where I got it from), and he continusly is losing hair. With 40 he appeared to have a full head of hear for an untrained eye. Now, being 68, he is almost a NW5. Fin for life for me as well, or until I switch on Dut or the cure in 2030...
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There's always the possibility that Billy Joel was wearing a hair system back in his younger days. I haven't followed his career so I don't know.

Mick50, your hair transformation looks very impressive, I must say!
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Yeah, this is interesting indeed. Given that he was around 35 and seemingly a Norwood 2 (assuming the top of his scalp showed hair as thick as what appears in the hairline), I would guess that MattJ is right and that he may have been sporting a hair system in his younger days. Most people at 35 years of age don't lose a substantial amount of hair and go from a Norwood 2 to a Norwood 7. It's not impossible, but it is unlikely.

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I don't think billly Joel wore a hair piece, I think it was two things, he has thick curly hair that added an illusion of coverage and his hair loss was slow, but i bet if he would've shaved his head in his 30's you would've seen a horse shoe miniaturization pattern. It's rare that someone with his hair loss pattern has such a slow rate of loss, but it's not that out of the ordinary, that's why it's always good to do a shave test; once you shave then you see what your loss really is, there's also a possibility billy Joel wore concealer, I know GLH existed back then and it was similar to toppik.

Take ed O'Neil for example the first photo is him in 1985 at age 39 spankers age, he's a Norwood 3 maybe, now at 70 he's a Norwood 6 with a forelock. I think the same thing, the pattern was probably always there just couldn't see it due to the styling of the hair. This is why miniaturization tests are so important because sometimes the naked eye can't detect miniaturization but that doesn't mean that it's not there, both of those guys probably had miniaturization throughout the entire scalp lucky for them the loss was slow.
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I don't think billly Joel wore a hair piece, I think it was two things, he has thick curly hair that added an illusion of coverage and his hair loss was slow, but i bet if he would've shaved his head in his 30's you would've seen a horse shoe miniaturization pattern. It's rare that someone with his hair loss pattern has such a slow rate of loss, but it's not that out of the ordinary, that's why it's always good to do a shave test; once you shave then you see what your loss really is, there's also a possibility billy Joel wore concealer, I know GLH existed back then and it was similar to toppik.

Take ed O'Neil for example the first photo is him in 1985 at age 39 spankers age, he's a Norwood 3 maybe, now at 70 he's a Norwood 6 with a forelock. I think the same thing, the pattern was probably always there just couldn't see it due to the styling of the hair. This is why miniaturization tests are so important because sometimes the naked eye can't detect miniaturization but that doesn't mean that it's not there, both of those guys probably had miniaturization throughout the entire scalp lucky for them the loss was slow.
I think Ed hung on pretty well. If call him a nw5. He was a nw3v when naked with children started. He's actually hung on better than I would have thought. His sides stayed high and he kept a diffused pattern.

I did the shave test before I booked my procedure at 33 and didn't have any advanced pattern, but hair loss is pretty unpredictable and I think early 30s is pretty young.

I've been really lucky though, being over 5 years post op with little change. I've been thinking of doing a minor touch up for my 40th birthday. I'll be on fin for 7 years in two months so I start seeing some lost ground soon. We'll see.
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There's always the possibility that Billy Joel was wearing a hair system back in his younger days. I haven't followed his career so I don't know.

Mick50, your hair transformation looks very impressive, I must say!
Thanks mattj its a big improvement form where I started full-blown NW5 ,be nice to get the crown done but I guess at my age it doesn't look so bad going to wait and see what happens.
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Thanks mattj its a big improvement form where I started full-blown NW5 ,be nice to get the crown done but I guess at my age it doesn't look so bad going to wait and see what happens.
You've achieved that all-important facial framing. Looks like it's knocked years off you!
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