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Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) Discuss and share your photos, experiences and results related to the Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) hair transplant procedure, including its advantages, disadvantages and who is an ideal candidate.

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Old 06-17-2017, 07:23 PM
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In this video, a graft is being delivered at 2:11 (and several right after). As you can see, while the initial grasp of the forcep is very superficial and near the epidermis, as tension is applied to the graft the second forcep grasps lower on the follicle. Even with a gentle grasp, this area is clearly outside of the region defined above. And although it is more superficial, it could still clearly be near the crucial bulge stem cell region (which is around 1.5-2mm deep).


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I'm glad to see this website allowing the use of one of JT's videos again.
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Old 06-18-2017, 03:13 AM
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When I copied your quote your font came along. I think I got it back to normal now.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:35 AM
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@Dr. Feller and Dr. Bloxham,

Thank you for your response. I can not speak for Dr. Bisanga, but here is a piece written recently by him that gives an insight behind the philosophy of our clinic.


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For the sake of this topic we assume that both techniques are performed competently.

Deciding on a transplant is a hard decision; the technique used will play a major factor in your long-term happiness, goals and intentions. Both techniques have their pluses and negatives and so it is important to ensure you choose the correct technique for long term planning and getting the most out of your donor.

FUE, the donor surface area is opened to the maximum but that does not mean there are more follicular units (FU) to be taken in comparison to FUT. Every FU removed will reduce the density, the more removed can noticeably drop the density and impair the donor for future procedures, FUE or FUT. Assuming an average density around the safe zone of 80 FU cm2 if the extraction pattern is spread and no areas are over harvested around 4000 FU could be removed according to the protocol we use at BHR clinic, this will drop the overall density down by around 30%, leaving a density near 60 FUcm2 in the donor, and this would then be considered low density on a virgin scalp.

To sustain the density in the donor FUE is better suited to lower or mid-range graft numbers for the most, with an educated extraction pattern, no over harvesting or partial shaving then the density change to the scalp can be minimal, if the candidate has an average to good density to start with then around 1500 grafts can be removed and hardly affect the overall density.

Larger patterns of hair loss then FUE starts to be less of an option over one or multiple procedures; grown out results of 3500 FUE plus grafts are not the norm and require very good donor characteristics. If high FUE numbers are performed in one procedure, there is a greater risk the yield will not mirror that attained through FUT; a real medical concern of large FUE procedure is the effect on the body to heal multiple open wounds created in the recipient and donor area and how effective the body can sustain and heal whilst not impairing the scar healing in the donor and yield in the recipient.

A possible exception to the FUE rule on larger hair loss pattern candidates is when there are limited goals, not looking for total restoration, lower density placement due to specific hair styling, or the “5 o’clock shadow” look for those who want a high conservative hair line to frame the face and frontal area and intend to keep their hair short/shaved; but this is not the normal HT candidate and very important that goals and long term intentions are discussed and understood by the candidate and the doctor.

FUT will remove a hair bearing strip of tissue and therefore effectively the hair density has not changed significantly in the donor as the surface area is removed as opposed to hairs removed from the surface area. The scalp laxity allows for a strip to be removed without causing any long-term tension and over time the skin heals well. There are limits to how many times this can be repeated but in good conditions 2-3 times and with good skin healing attributes it will be able to englobe the existing linear scars to leave a single line rather than multiple wounds.

FUT removes a high concentrated number of FU from a relatively small area and they are removed still in their natural state of high density on the strip; 4000 grafts in one procedure is an achievable number in the majority of candidates unless the donor density or laxity is particularly weak. For long term planning and high NW stages FUT makes it easier to plan and cover with a good density the largest surface area possible.

FUT does have the disadvantage of leaving a linear scar so more visible signs a surgical procedure has been carried out but the advantage of being able to move a greater number of FU either in one procedure or multiple procedures compared to FUE and still sustain a similar density as before in the donor.

Conclusion, the advent of FUE means no need to be left with a linear scar for a relatively small to mid-range amount of grafts placed so from a cosmetic point of view it allows the patient to have an HT with little to no obvious signs a HT has been performed.

FUE due to the technical demands of the procedure being labour and time intensive as well as the medical healings better suited to smaller sessions for the majority of hair loss sufferers. If the pattern of hair loss is high and the goal is to cover a large surface area with a natural looking density then FUT would be the sensible and obvious choice to achieve the best result for the candidate. The combination of both techniques can be utilised to ensure the original scar quality healing is maintained and using FUE to maximise the donor extraction zone, whilst still allowing the potential for future surgery using both techniques if need be. Combining the two techniques allows the best attributes of both to be used, maximum movement of grafts and opens the donor zone, concentrated high number of grafts from FUT and harvesting outside the traditional safe zone with FUE. What has to be remembered though is with either technique they are both scalp/hair characteristic changing in their own way, hair is being removed and there will always be a consequence to this, be it loss of density or laxity or scarring.
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:30 AM
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Swooping,

thank you for the insight. This sentence is a little confusing to me:

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FUT will remove a hair bearing strip of tissue and therefore effectively the hair density has not changed significantly in the donor as the surface area is removed as opposed to hairs removed from the surface area.
It also contradicts this sentence a little bit:

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Every FU removed will reduce the density, the more removed can noticeably drop the density and impair the donor for future procedures, FUE or FUT.
In my opinion, also strip reduces the remaining donor density. It just has to, as the same area has to be covered with less FU. The area might by wider and the FU more even distributed (due to the overall stretching of the skin) than in FUE, but the density has to drop by actually by the same amount (if the entire donor and not only the safe zone is considered and widening of the recipient area is not occuring).
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A possible exception to the FUE rule on larger hair loss pattern candidates is when there are limited goals......... the “5 o’clock shadow” look for those who want a high conservative hair line to frame the face and frontal area and intend to keep their hair short/shaved;
I actually wouldn't mind having the 5 o'clock shadow look and shaving my head for the rest of my life. Do you have any picture examples of patients the doctor has done this type of procedure to in the past?
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:16 AM
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Swooping,

thank you for the insight. This sentence is a little confusing to me:


It also contradicts this sentence a little bit:



In my opinion, also strip reduces the remaining donor density. It just has to, as the same area has to be covered with less FU. The area might by wider and the FU more even distributed (due to the overall stretching of the skin) than in FUE, but the density has to drop by actually by the same amount (if the entire donor and not only the safe zone is considered and widening of the recipient area is not occuring).
Density = FU's per unit of surface area --> FUT removes FU's AND surface area -->therefore overall density not as much affected as just removing FUs and no surface area as in FUE

This is why for most grafts possible over a lifetime it is recommended to do strip first up until your scalp allows then switch to FUE
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Density = FU's per unit of surface area --> FUT removes FU's AND surface area -->therefore overall density not as much affected as just removing FUs and no surface area as in FUE

This is why for most grafts possible over a lifetime it is recommended to do strip first up until your scalp allows then switch to FUE
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Yes, the definition of density is FU / area!
FUT removes the FU and the skin, I get that too.

But the remaining skin has to stretch (!) ,as your skull (surface) obviously does not shrink. That is why you are tested for you skin laxity to begin with.

Hence, FU removed and area remains constant after stretching --> Densitiy decreased. It is less obvious than with FUE (as more even distributed) but thinning also exist in FUT.
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I have a degree in quantum physics, so please let me elaborate my perspective with this debate. Throughout all the research I have conducted over the past few years in Harvard, I have come to the conclusion that strip scars are gay. End of story fue wins
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:17 PM
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:51 AM
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Nah, you don't even know what my business practices are. We've never met nor ever done business together. And after 24 years of full time successful national and international practice, multiple clinics, thousands of patients and not a single lawsuit or litigation of any kind I think my business ethics and practices are pretty solid.

You are just angry because you don't want to accept the truth about FUE. Hey, if you are so convinced of it's merits why bother to attack me? Just go ahead and get it done. You certainly don't need my approval.
Curious as to why you havnt done one the procedures yourself? You certainly are a candidate from the pictures ive seen of you. Always found it odd whether it be a cosmetic dentist with bad teeth etc...why haven't they become their own billboard so to speak..Thanks
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