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Old 10-07-2017, 11:48 PM
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Not trying to be hostile to the doctor as I would say this in any case of a poor yield and every doctor has examples of this, if it does not improve substantially by the 12 month mark I would ask for a refund and avoid a touch up with the same surgeon.
Appreciate the response Jean, and glad to see your recovery is going well. Afraid you may be right regarding my result as it's not really improving much. I just booked time off work for next may for a potential second surgery to remedy the current situation (which looks worse than pre-op tbh). You made an interesting point regarding asking for a refund and going with a different doc. Is that common practice? My thought was that a refund would only really be in play in the case of some kind of negligence (which is not the case here, just shitty growth). Anyone else have any insight on this?

Unless things drastically improve in the next two months I'm going to need another procedure and even with no refund/discount I'll need to consider going elsewhere to avoid potentially burning through more grafts with poor aesthetic improvement.
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:54 PM
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If I'm being honest I would expect more growth at this point, im sure your doctor is great and will stand by his work, but at this point for nearly 1,800 grafts I'd say the yield is lacking. With that said, you have plenty of donor left, and you still have some time for things to improve so I really hope things work out.
The man, the myth, the legend -- HT soon. Glad to see your crown looking good in your update video! Actually had an in-person consult set up with diep but had to cancel due to a work commitment. May need to reach back out to him for a second procedure.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:15 PM
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Appreciate the response Jean, and glad to see your recovery is going well. Afraid you may be right regarding my result as it's not really improving much. I just booked time off work for next may for a potential second surgery to remedy the current situation (which looks worse than pre-op tbh). You made an interesting point regarding asking for a refund and going with a different doc. Is that common practice? My thought was that a refund would only really be in play in the case of some kind of negligence (which is not the case here, just shitty growth). Anyone else have any insight on this?

Unless things drastically improve in the next two months I'm going to need another procedure and even with no refund/discount I'll need to consider going elsewhere to avoid potentially burning through more grafts with poor aesthetic improvement.
No matter who the doctor is I'd opt for this approach. I've seen a dodgy Rahal case recently where he has suggested they go to another surgeon and refunded them, as every doctor has different protocol and it is questionable to do the same thing if it didn't work the first time.

I don't know the law in the US or your state, but I suspect that if you are provided a service and it doesn't achieve a reasonable expectation of what the service was they propose they offer you would be entitled to compensation. Not that I think Harris has done anything wrong at this point but you likely have a wide range of compensation options beyond just medical negligence.

To quote Einstein, doing the same thing over and over again really is insanity. Move on and ask for a refund, otherwise I would make a fuss. Bad results happen with all doctors at times and there is no shame in that, but any ethical doctor with a blatantly bad result should be happy to offer a refund.
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Old 10-08-2017, 02:02 PM
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The man, the myth, the legend -- HT soon. Glad to see your crown looking good in your update video! Actually had an in-person consult set up with diep but had to cancel due to a work commitment. May need to reach back out to him for a second procedure.
Your attitude towards everything is fantastic, in my years of being on this forum Iíve never encountered such a level headed guy, typically these forums are filled with body dysmorphic hypochondriacs who hyperventilate at the site of a shed hair. Your attitude alone will get you far trust me. Iíd consult with Dr. Diep but donít stop there, consult with as many doctors as possible, really get a feel for which doctor you think would best fit your needs, this forum is a great resource. Speak with the clinic and try to reach an agreement, whatever you do decline a second procedure, if it didnít work the first time chances are it wonít the second time. I hope you can reach an amicable agreement with the clinic keep us updated.
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Old 10-22-2017, 05:56 PM
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Per the suggestion of many in this thread I emailed Dr. Harris with my concerns and pictures. He agreed that the growth was not as expected and that if things don't improve by the 12 month mark I have two options:
1. Additional surgery at no charge
2. Refund

Although I'm not pleased with my results thus far, I am happy that Dr. Harris is standing by his work and not trying to bullshit me by either saying the results are good or blaming my physiology for the poor growth. Not being able to leave the house without concealer is tough enough without being blamed for it as well. It's unfortunate because I have a friend who got a similar sized procedure (~1500 grafts) with Dr. Harris and his results are looking good so not sure why mine didn't turn out well.

Regarding the options, as alluded to here, I'm leaning more towards getting a refund and going to a different doc. As has been discussed, all doctors have different methods and some methods work better on certain patients than on others. I'll be out in the Bay next month for a week or so and I reached out to Dr. Diep's clinic for a consult. I'll need to dig back into researching other FUE docs, I know Konior has a good reputation on here too so maybe I'll reach out to him this week. Also open to suggestions if anyone has any.
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Hey all,

A bit late but attached are my 12/14 month update pictures.

I grew my hair a bit longer per forum recommendations.

Looking for honest feedback, advice moving forward, as well as styling options.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:59 AM
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Refund, opt for another surgeon. If I was in your case I would probably try FUT rather than FUE to maximise my chances with someone like Konior or Hasson/Wong. If you're set on FUE I would definitely suggest Erdogan strongly, specifically because you have quite a large area to cover as well as thinning way back in the midscalp, which ought call for a larger megasession than most of your other options opt for in FUE cases, including reinforcement of thinning areas behind the hairline.
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Hey it doesnít look good .. sorry about your situation.. when I read ur first post I felt really hopeful for u .. u seemed like a good candidate , u were implanting Into bald areas, so less chance of native hair shockloss .. n the hair that u already had looked strong , hence is why u had so many 3 hair grafts .. so I felt u would get a great result ..
- I felt most sad though , when in ur post u said u were patient n been waiting for along time before going to surgery . But finally decided to go under the knife , cuz once u cut , u cut!
- n mentioned u might look back on this day 10 years later n be like what the heck did I do ..
- think u jinxed ursself
It was a bad sign when from the beginning on ur wash that u noticed a lot of the hair fell out , I think it wasnít just ur shaved hair but also grafts that fell out ..
- me sad to know that u going to look back n remember this day was a bad decision . Now it makes me worried myself since i was planning on doing a transplant myself this year , but now Iím nervous about going through with it ..
ó well all is not lost ,, ur hairline looks good n a second pass through will make things denser .. most people get a second transplant right away for more density anyways ..
at least u chose an ethical doctor thatís willing to give u a full refund ..
so on the bright side , itís like u getting two transplants for the price of one .. best of luck to u ... keep us updated .. things will turn out well..
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Old 02-13-2018, 04:35 PM
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Refund, opt for another surgeon. If I was in your case I would probably try FUT rather than FUE to maximise my chances with someone like Konior or Hasson/Wong. If you're set on FUE I would definitely suggest Erdogan strongly, specifically because you have quite a large area to cover as well as thinning way back in the midscalp, which ought call for a larger megasession than most of your other options opt for in FUE cases, including reinforcement of thinning areas behind the hairline.
definitely get to another doctor and get the refund. I don't know that you have to go fut as while it's not a small procedure it's not that you're a nw 5+ either but you are going to be dipping into your donor extensively with fue so you need to get this right this time, right with either procedure but especially with fue with less margin for error. If you are going to opt for fue, one of the top Euro specialists is my advice as well, Erdogan, Lorenzo, if you're the patient sort DeFreitas...if you do opt for fut then Konior or Hasson/Wong are top of the food chain. You need a sure thing and these guys are as close to your sure things as the market has.
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:47 PM
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This is a disappointing overall yield for sure. However, I am glad to see Dr. Harris is standing by his work, and that you do have options going forward. I commend you for sticking around and keeping everyone on this forum updated; many would simply vanish and never post again in situations like this. Please do let us know how you decide to approach this going forward.
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