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Old 04-20-2016, 09:14 PM
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Hi!

I am planning to do a FUT. After browsing this forum and doing some other research online, I decided I would either go with Konior or Shapiro.

I already know I would be in experts' hands in both cases... But I still can't decide.

I am not looking to find out who is the best.
What I am looking for is to have a better idea of how choosing one or the other would differ on different levels... (patient care, team assistance vs surgeon doing the work, pre and post op patient experience, general approach to the FUT and transplant, etc.).

I hope you can find something to guide my decision here!

Thanks in advance ))
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:40 PM
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Hi!

I am planning to do a FUT. After browsing this forum and doing some other research online, I decided I would either go with Konior or Shapiro.

I already know I would be in experts' hands in both cases... But I still can't decide.

I am not looking to find out who is the best.
What I am looking for is to have a better idea of how choosing one or the other would differ on different levels... (patient care, team assistance vs surgeon doing the work, pre and post op patient experience, general approach to the FUT and transplant, etc.).

I hope you can find something to guide my decision here!

Thanks in advance ))
there is no "best" between Konior & Shapiro - they are equally "top elite docs" - depends on what your looking to achieve, ie. aggressive vs. conservative restoration, etc. - you should be consulting with both docs and maybe a 3rd alternative on your list who might surprise you - (ie. Hasson & Wong, Rahal, etc.). and then see how each different doc addresses your specific needs, how do they plan for your restoration? in one or multiple sessions? how many grafts do they recommend to achive your goals? how they each address your needs and concerns? etc. then you decide who is the "best" for your situation - in this top class of surgeons, they're all superior - it depends which one suits your needs ... that's a decision only you can make ...
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:39 PM
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Well that's exactly what I wrote : not looking for the best, but looking to compare what they have to offer. Which one is more conservative or aggressive? What are their strength or best know for ?

I am from abroad, so consultations are only phone or email, which makes it more difficult to get a feel of how different they are.

Any one here with some input ?

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Old 04-21-2016, 04:37 AM
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I wouldn't say that there is too much to choose from in terms of both clinics they have stellar reputations and rightly so. I don't think one is more aggressive than the other from the results I have seen and approach. How many grafts have you been quoted by each of them? Is being aggressive required in your case?

When it comes to FUT the role of the Doctors should be fairly similar that he designs the hairline, removes the strip and closes and makes the recipient area incisions. Technicians dissect and trim the grafts and place into the sites made by the Doctor.

I have heard that Dr Konior places all the grafts but Spanker who represents him be able to confirm this to be the case or not. There are many patients of each clinic on this forum that will be able answer your questions about pre and post op experiences. Good luck, which ever you choose you will be in very good hands.
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Old 04-21-2016, 06:51 AM
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Both surgeons are very hands on, each only performs a single surgery a day, Dr Shapiro is present and participates in a significant portion of the graft placements and delegates a portion of this to techs, whilst Konior will do this all himself. Although both are highly skilled, I get the impression that Shapiro is more highly renowned amongst his peers than Konior. After care at both clinics is probably comparible. Konior is more conservative than Shapiro. Shapiro is more renowned for his hairlines than Konior. Konior seems to be very meticulous and double checks everything. Konior is more expensive. Konior has a longer waitlist (only because he runs a 1 man clinic whilst Shapiro Medical has 3 surgeons). Overall, I prefer Shapiro over Konior.
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Both surgeons are very hands on, each only performs a single surgery a day, Dr Shapiro is present and participates in a significant portion of the graft placements and delegates a portion of this to techs, whilst Konior will do this all himself. Although both are highly skilled, I get the impression that Shapiro is more highly renowned amongst his peers than Konior. After care at both clinics is probably comparible. Konior is more conservative than Shapiro. Shapiro is more renowned for his hairlines than Konior. Konior seems to be very meticulous and double checks everything. Konior is more expensive. Konior has a longer waitlist (only because he runs a 1 man clinic whilst Shapiro Medical has 3 surgeons). Overall, I prefer Shapiro over Konior.
I would disagree with the conservatism of the hairlines comment and also one being more renowned for hairlines over the other. They both produce perfectly natural hairlines and are 2 of the best in the business. That is just my take and I follow both surgeons and their results very closely. Just my opinion.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:47 AM
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I feel like I should chime in because I see it a lot on these boards and I do not want anyone to be misled.

Dr. Konior does not place every single graft himself on every case. On premade openings, which consist of about 5% of his cases, his assistant of 10 years does place some, and he supervises every graft, meaning, grafts do not get placed with him not there. Only he and she place grafts and he will place the majority. On stick an place, he places them all and she assists. This kind of takes out the unknown factor of technicians. The results that you see are going to be consistently done on you by the same skill level of the results that you see online. He does every FUE extraction and does this solely manual now.

I don't know that any doctor can actually be involved than he is in the procedure, but I want to prevent someone from having a procedure and being misled that Dr. K does not allow his assistant to place any grafts at all, ever..

That said, I am not selling to you OP, I think SMG is a great clinic and these are the same 2 clinics that I narrowed my search down to before pulling the trigger. Make a decision when you are ready, and one that you know you will not second guess. That will make recovery time easier on you as you will be completely content in your decision.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:22 PM
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I am not looking to find out who is the best.
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Um, that's silly, this should be the single biggest deciding factor in your decision.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:29 PM
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I don't think it's silly... As I wrote at the beginning of my thread, I know that one of these two surgeons might be a better fit for some patients, whereas the other one might be a better choice for others.

I am trying to figure out who to pinpoint who would be the best for me, as opposed to THE one and only best surgeon.... Both are amazing I am sure.

Any other opinions?
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For starters, know that this is the easiest difficult decision you'll ever have to make. Its like choosing between 2 Victoria Secret models.

I consulted with both, they were my final two, I went with Shapiro. Its too early for me to speak of results or sing praise as much as I'd like to. I'm only 6 months out. But I felt equally comfortable with both and timing (strategy-some) played into my decision.

I'm a very meticulous guy and was instantly drawn to both of them for that very reason. They are extremely detail oriented and both seem to genuinely enjoy their craft. Dr. Ron spoke to me on the phone for an hour on a Friday night, while Konior responded to my onslaught of emails as if I was his only patient. It was incredible.

Beside manner was also crucial to me, after several bad consults and thinking ahead to post-op. It was clear they were both kind and warm and would be receptive long after my recovery.

As for procedure, Shapiro was present the entire time save the final 10-15 minutes. The techs put the finishing touches on my hairline but I'd say he performed 90%.

What other variables are you considering in terms of "fit". Outcome should be #1. Feel free to PM me.
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