Coalition Surgeons

irishsailor · #11 **Top** 09-06-2012, 11:29 AM

Iv'e always believed that what the best surgeons in the world do everytime is the basics very well. Everything thing in life is built on good foundations, "Friendships, relationships and if its not then you will probably get found out.
When the basics are done well then for me the outcome, always has a better fighting chance.
When i think back to my poor HT in the uk they broke every basic fundamental HT rule in the book

For me my list is probably in the region of 20 surgeons for the high level of work they do, but when you then bring in geography, personalities it would probably be closer to 10

Spanker · #12 **Top** 09-06-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by michaeljames

Interesting thread. It is not really plausible and to me erroneous to assert that there are only 5 good clinics in the world. The statement pretty much counteracts HTN, Since a lot more than 5 HT surgeons are recommended. There are always levels of expertise in all professions. Asserting that there is such a low number of skilled centers cannot be good for the industry. Unless people are actually visiting the clinics and doing more than anecdotal precursory evaluation this idea doesn't make sense. Dr. Lindsay's list of the positives of good clinics is spot on. If however there were only 5 successful clinics yielding good results the industry would fold from the sheer volume of negative activity. There are a lot more than 5 top clinics producing positive results. This assertion is not scientific and contradictory to the efforts of HTN. All the Best, Michael.

Micheal, I guess I need to set a few things straight. First, I never said that there were only five good clinics, I said that there were five that I considered for me. So, while you are right that this is not scientific, it doesn't have to be. Being recommended by HTN does not mean that the clinic is great for every person or the right choice for me. I'm sorry, but it is true. It is not my duty to say things that are good for your industry as the only interest I have is for the patient. After 2 years of extensive research I feel like I have the right to say that after that research I only really considered 5 clinics. What would be worse for HTN than me stating this is to feel that I couldn't. We are open here and users are not obligated to promote recommended clinics. There is a long lost of clinics that may be right for other people for different reasons. Lots of clinics put out good results, but like in everything else, there are a special few that rise above the rest. That is scientific based on three-sigma rule. It states that 5 percent (of statistical findings) are going to be more than two standard deviations above the mean. This basically applies to everything with a strong correlation. Ball players, iq scores, income, and different skill sets too. I am sorry if the truth is offensive. Everyone can't be kings of there craft. This is just my opinion and I don't see a problem with my statement.

Cant decide · #13 **Top** 09-06-2012, 08:44 PM

I agree 100 percent with Spanker. There is good and then there is great. People can have different opinions on who is best or their top 5 but notice that it is the same handful of docs always mentioned in this short list; Not just on this site but on others as well.

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