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Future Medical treatments Discuss future possible treatments for hair loss like new drugs, gene therapy, hair follicle cloning, etc.

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Old 07-09-2012, 05:38 PM
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I dont know where you get that hst results are not on par with fue or fut results, if you compare 1500 hst to 1500 fut/fue then you will se tht there is nothing between them. You cant compare 10-15000 fue session to 2000 hst, compare apples to apples.

Have a look at this scissor boy, his results look amazing for the number of grafts, are you saying Umar or any other doc would deliver better res with that amount of grafts?
http://www.h*irsite.com/hair-loss/bo...casc-DESC.html

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http://www.scissorboy.com/video/index/122/-1/all/40
Link didn't work (even with replacing the *). I'm not referring to comparing 10k FUE cases to 2k HST cases ... I don't think the straight comparisons hold up. If the results were posted on our network as straight FUE cases, members would not gush over the results. To me, this means HST cases are receiving extra "credit" simply for being HST cases. Now, as I stated before, this is okay in my book BECAUSE the procedure does offer advantages. However, this doesn't change the fact that on an equal playing field, they post-operative images simply don't compare.

Again, I look forward to reviewing more results. Send me cases in a private message (to comply with forum TOS) and I'll objectively review them all.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:43 PM
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Thanks again for your effort Blake!

In scissor boy's 4 month post op video which he posted in his facebook page:
Jul 17, 2011 1:15pm | Facebook

He wrote a comment and i quote:
"I am willing to have my donor area shaved so the area can be inspected but if I do I want to have 2 independent and unbiased qualified doctors/labs to do the inspection.Some other people have been talking about setting this up butI haven't heard anything back from them yet."

Maybe you guys can get in touch with him and make some arrangements.

Furthermore, there are many guys on diffrent forums (HS) who are scheduled to go through HST and planning to document their case, and im sure if there is a real intention to investigate, some of them might be welling to have their donor inspected prior and post HST.
If he, or anyone else, would like to post their results on the forums ... we will happily host and evaluate any legitimate cases that meet our terms of service. In fact, I'd love to see some more HST cases!
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I did watch the video attached but only saw a picture at ten days post op.

The presentation and documentation of the results shown on the website are poor in my opinion.

The results ideally need to be presented with month on month pictures to 12-18 months taken at different angles in the correct lighting, pre op and immediate post op, graft numbers of the hair used, donor density, hair diameter, videos of the patients etc etc.

I cannot find any of this.

This is one of the main attractions of the major forums in my opinion as they are currently the the best source of information available for perspective patients to view and the good surgeons put up countless patients presentations like what I have stated above.
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I did watch the video attached but only saw a picture at ten days post op.

The presentation and documentation of the results shown on the website are poor in my opinion.

The results ideally need to be presented with month on month pictures to 12-18 months taken at different angles in the correct lighting, pre op and immediate post op, graft numbers of the hair used, donor density, hair diameter, videos of the patients etc etc.

I cannot find any of this.

This is one of the main attractions of the major forums in my opinion as they are currently the the best source of information available for perspective patients to view and the good surgeons put up countless patients presentations like what I have stated above.
He had a video updat after 4 and 9 months
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Must have missed that aim4hair but thanks and I will have a look.
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Hello everyone

I'm new here... I just saw this link which is a patent about hair loss treatment..

METHODS FOR GENERATING NEW HAIR FOLLICLES, TREATING BALDNESS, AND HAIR REMOVAL - Cotsarelis, George

Does anyone knows about this and can anyone explain this in simple English
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Hey guys,
That's 16 months update that was posted today by scissorboy and again he is mentioning that he is welling to shave down to the skin and have his donor inspected:

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Thanks for posting that Aim4hair.

It would be great if he could do that.
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Thanks for posting that Aim4hair.

It would be great if he could do that.
you welcome, i really think that we reached the point where some doctors should really put their ego aside and step up and do serious effort to see if HST works as claimed, regardless if it works or not providing evidence would put an end to this debate and do good for everybody.
There is a doctor from atlanta who is looking seriously into this and planning to visit gho in august to verify his technique.

One thing i give gho credit for is that he is not afraid to perform his technique on public figures, since i would assume if somebody is trying to pull off a scam he would try to avoid public figures as much as possible.
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AIM,

Here's the issue (as I see it) ...

In science, if you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you. If you stand up and claim "I can cure diabetes," then it is your responsibility to set up a clinical trial, test the hypothesis, and prove you can, in fact, cure diabetes. If you stand up, make a claim, provide no real proof, and then chastise the rest of the scientific community for not adapting to your unproven method, you're in the wrong.

At this point in time, the procedure has been established, demonstrated some efficacy (in legitimate journals), but is still not accepted as the new norm by the hair restoration community.

To me, this means one of two things: 1. Widespread conspiracy; frankly, I do not believe this is the case. 2. The proof was offered and was either a. not convincing enough to create change, or b. not significant enough to properly demonstrate its true worth. As you guys are probably well aware, I personally think the potential here is huge. Of all the future treatments currently being tested, I think unlimited donor supply procedures are going to be big in the future. However, despite the potential it has, despite what it may or may not have done for other patients, as of now, I don't think the burden of proof falls onto other physicians. I think it is up to the creators of the procedure and satisfied patients to make the change.
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