It depends on the punch size. What punch size did they use there Beaverbuzz? Seems a bit large.

Even under close inspection, i have no visible 'white dots' and neither does the other patient who was there at the same time as me (who has his hair buzzed)

Rob

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How visible the scarring is does depend on punch size. Also, patient healing; hair length; and, other factors such as sun exposure are also a concern. However, FUE patients would do well to expect scarring similar to beaverbuzz regardless of punch size. They may not get it (like s2thoudriver), but they should be prepared for it. It is surgery after all. There will be scarring. The only question is how visible will it be? If you go in confident that scarring will not be detectable, you may be very disappointed.

True yes.

Just make sure you consider/ ask about the punch size. Anything more than 0.9mm and you should expect some punch scarring on certain types of skin. Other than that, you should be re-assured/informed by the surgeon.

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You are right on the mark with above statement, Zenmunk. We inform our patients that they should be able to shave down to a #2 guard but likely to go to a #1 guard after FUE procedures. I've seen patients who had .7mm punches used and could see white dots when shaven to a zero guard. I wholeheartedly agree that patients who undergo an FUE procedure should expect some form of white dots if you shave down to zero guard

Beaverbuzz had .9mm punches used.

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All FUE patients will have punch scarring even with .75mm punches used. Especially when shaved to a zero guard or razor. If you see footage of the actual extraction process, you can see the punch scar form quite visibly. Of course it matures and heals with time, but doesn't disappear. Would prefer punch scars over a strip scar anyday of the week though.

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Apparently most of the pics have been taken down, but from what I can tell, HT would be inappropriate for this patient. The reason is that HT cannot provide a naturally dense hairline in just one session, despite what the Bosley commercials imply. In fact, it probably cannot be done in 2 sessions. Yes you can have a naturally sparse hairline after one session, but this is not what the patient requires. The 'state of the art' just isn't there yet. He probably should have been turned away.

Having said that, I believe that all is not lost. The patient can probably just trim some of the outer hairs to reduce the sparsity. I seriously doubt anyone would be able to tell anything. You can tell if people think the hair is weird, because they look up at the hair when talking to you. It's called 'elevator eyes'. Or in this case, 'conveyor belt' eyes.

But like I said, it's hard to really tell what's going on here without the pics.

Cowl, I respectfully disagree.
I spent a lot of time looking at hair transplants online as well as saw my own brothers hair transplant. With my hair caliber I believe the density should have been fine. Like I said from my first post, my expectations were realistic. If they were not, I am sure I would have been told so and turned away.

There is another story on this forum, coincidentally another person that had poor growth, however, the reason why I want to show it is to draw attention to his temple points, which came out well. I actually would have preferred to have it a little less dense, but I believe that is why Dr. Shapiro suggested the day after my surgery that I may want to laser some of them so it doesn't look so dense. This user had a little bit larger of a procedure in terms of grafts (1300), but he also had a larger area covered from what I can see.

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.co...temples-5.html

Now if you look at my temple points (I actually have very similar hair to the guy in the thread), the spacing between each graft is quite large, especially the grafts farthest out. Is the guy above's a spectacular result? No. From what I researched that was a pretty normal for temple points. I didn't get this result. That's why I came on here, and that's why I am disappointed. Of course, my temple and hairline growth has not been great either, but the temple points are the most obvious to me.

I took off my photos for privacy concerns; however, I will leave this up as it doesn't show my face.

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Hey beaverbuzz,
What are you planning to do now with this situation?
What do you think went wrong here?
M.

I cant speak on beaverbuzz's behalf but sadly any surgery is a gamble. I cant stress that enough. Im sure beaverbuzz followed the post op instructions so its really a question of yield, physiology(i think that is the word) and surgical practice. Unfortuneatly we will never know the specific reason or reasons as to why some cases dobt yield well or why scars stretch etc.

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Thanks Mickey85,
This is scary... but I guess true for the time being. I hope this all becomes less of a gamble in the near future.
M.