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Old 11-05-2011, 12:47 PM
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Had ~2400 grafts 8.5 months ago to frontal third and crown transplanted into areas that were previously transplanted in to late '90's. I went back to my very prominent NYC surgeon a few weeks ago to take a look as I do not notice anything growing. He said it is still too early to tell and was not concerned. When I inquired that all the posts I see of 6-8months with very significant growth I he said everyone grows at a different pace and to wait a full year. Thought? I have read the growth times posts,etc but I would think that by this point some growth should be noticeable. I will post some pics. But guess I, just looking for some concurrence. Is it true that if prior surgeries were done that it markedly delays the growth rate on subsequent transplants?
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:02 PM
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Do you have pictures you can post? It is the only way to tell what's really going on. That being said, no noticeable growth at 8.5 months is not a good sign.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:12 PM
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Had ~2400 grafts 8.5 months ago to frontal third and crown transplanted into areas that were previously transplanted in to late '90's. I went back to my very prominent NYC surgeon a few weeks ago to take a look as I do not notice anything growing. He said it is still too early to tell and was not concerned. When I inquired that all the posts I see of 6-8months with very significant growth I he said everyone grows at a different pace and to wait a full year. Thought? I have read the growth times posts,etc but I would think that by this point some growth should be noticeable. I will post some pics. But guess I, just looking for some concurrence. Is it true that if prior surgeries were done that it markedly delays the growth rate on subsequent transplants?

Strong887, do you have before and current pictures you can post to show what has happened. Do you know the graft breakdown as well from those 2400 grafts? 8.5 months should have some growth, but it also depends on how much of an area those 2400 grafts covered. 2400 grafts for both the frontal third and crown together may depend on the size of the area covered. You are right though, by 8.5 months you should be able to see some growth. Most people start growing hairs between the 3rd and 4th months. I started growing some transplanted hairs 57-58 days post op. Some people do not have speedy growth like that, for most it is 3-4 months, and at 8.5 months if you have not seen growth then by the 12 month you should, if not then there is something wrong. Usually, people wait a full year to make a judgement.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:16 PM
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Breakdown as follows:

Total FU 2279
Total hairs 4339
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:27 PM
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Had ~2400 grafts 8.5 months ago to frontal third and crown transplanted into areas that were previously transplanted in to late '90's. I went back to my very prominent NYC surgeon a few weeks ago to take a look as I do not notice anything growing. He said it is still too early to tell and was not concerned. When I inquired that all the posts I see of 6-8months with very significant growth I he said everyone grows at a different pace and to wait a full year.
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This is something I come across often on the forums and have always wondered about...

Basically, many people claim that prior work from the pre-URFUT era of hair restoration can impede or prevent growth with a new procedure, even with the current techniques. If this is true, then why would a doctor accept such a patient? Also, how is it determined whether the previous work could potentially compromise any new procedure?

H&W recently posted an inspiring case from a burn victim who had stellar results. I can't imagine previous methods of hair restoration would be more traumatic, invasive and intractable than that of a burn victim...

Either way, you should definitely be seeing growth 8.5 months post-op. If not, then I'd feel comfortable saying that your procedure is all but assured to be a failure. Of course, you have to wait until a year to assess the final result, but to have no growth at 8.5 months post-op is unheard of, except in the cases of outright failures.

However, you need to post some pics to get any meaningful input on this matter. Also, who was the doctor of your previous procedure and your most recent one?


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I went back to my very prominent NYC surgeon a few weeks ago to take a look as I do not notice anything growing. He said it is still too early to tell and was not concerned. When I inquired that all the posts I see of 6-8months with very significant growth I he said everyone grows at a different pace and to wait a full year.
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One more thing...

I find the above statement a little hard to believe. Are you saying that the doctor really wasn't concerned at all, even in the slightest? Did he say that you should expect big things in the next 3.5 months?

Surely there had to be something else... he must have said something to the effect of what you should expect or what could potentially compromise your result?

I can't imagine how any doctor, let alone a 'prominent NYC surgeon" could dismiss no growth at 8.5 months post-op as irrelevant. Something doesn't add up here...


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Old 11-05-2011, 05:34 PM
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He largely dismissed my concern due to the fact that i was only 8 months out (too early) and he expected it to take longer to start growing. He was quite confident that it would grow as expected at 1 year (or longer). Will post pics soon.
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I tend to agree with the others: without images its a little difficult to give a measured opinion.

That said, I'm of the belief that you should have seen something by now.

I've always felt strongly that by the 6 month mark you should be able to clearly tell where you're headed results wise.

In my long experience reading and researching I've seen many posts such as yours. And its a very rare thing to have no growth at 8 months and suddenly experience a massive growth spurt in the last 4 months to the one year mark.

I hate to say it, but if you're truly looking at no growth at 8.5 months, I would say you had a failed procedure for one reason or another.

Your doctor saying "wait a full year"at this point is basically telling you to go away and get used to the idea that it didn't work.

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Old 11-05-2011, 06:44 PM
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Attached are some pre op, 2-3 days post op, and 8-8.5 months later. The recent pics are after shower / styling. Perhaps i am being overly critical or my expectations are unrealistically set too high for the # of grafts i received.. but SOME reassurance would be great ( if warranted).
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:33 PM
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Well, it does look like you had some growth, but to be honest with you, I don't love this HT work. The grafts appear to be spaced far apart and don't look like dense packing. What exactly was your goal? With your level of loss I would have concentrated on rebuilding the front, and address the crown in a second procedure. It looks like your surgeon may have spread you a bit thin. Now, that's fine if your goals were to have overall coverage with lighter density. I'm willing to bet there was a bit of a miscommunication between you and your doctor.

The good news is that you can always go for another round and create better density. Regarding your crown: growth tends to take longer in that area.
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