Hi,

I read this in todays newspaper. Looks to be a miracle technique if this works:

A medical couple in Hyderabad, Debraj Shome and Rinky Kapoor, claim that their home-grown invention, QR 678, could arrest the most stubborn cases of hairfall ...

The couple say their invention required four years of research, passing through various stages of development in the laboratories of the Tata Memorial Hospital, IIT Mumbai and Apollo Hospital in Hyderabad. "If there is no research paper on it yet," says Dr Shome, "it is only because we have still not patented the molecule, which is basically a mix of many growth factors ...

(see the "Times of India" for more information)



thoughts on this? Have you heard about this before? Any experiences ?

Suresh.

Suresh,

Thank you for sharing this. This product seems to follow an emerging trend of physicians, companies, and inventors trying to be the first one to successfully create a 'stem cell' based, injectable treatment for hair loss. I haven't heard anything regarding the specific product you've mentioned (although the article is quite vague), but there are various other discussion topics in this forum ('Future Medical Treatments') that discuss these new hypothetical treatments and the individuals responsible.

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Future HT Doc, what do you make of this link describing the solution?

I am in deep trouble and ready to clutch at any and every straw at times, and this seems to have come just in the nick of time. Would appreciate your insight!!

I do hope its safe and does not blow up into a finasteride kinda thing. :-(

Akash,

To be honest, I'm unsure. All these new types of 'stem cell' therapies are quite new, and I would personally approach with 'cautious optimism.' I would probably stick with proven, effective, safe products for the time being.

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Future HT Doc, isnt this something different than stem cell stuff? They say they have a molecule...and then give 8-13 shots every 3 weeks.

To be frank, both the docs look pretty young and "raw"...so that makes me a wee bit skeptical. And they dont describe their magic molecule.

They have a contact US page which I had posted before, are there any specific questions that i can ask, would appreciate your guidance.

I am pretty scared of Fin thanks to my mother, a doc, giving me a blasting..but even so, wanted to make sure i ask the right things.

Akash,

I'm frankly a bit confused as to their methods. In one instance, they describe a cellular based therapy which follows the same lines of just about every other major company out there. However, they make the product seem very mysterious and refer to it as the 'molecule.' However, the 'results' section of the website features several before and after pictures of individuals who have received mesotherapy injections into the scalp. If this is the secret formula, then I'm afraid these physicians are a bit behind the times.

Mesotherapy is a very common compound used in cosmetic medicine. In fact, it has been popular in the US since the late 1980's as a treatment for cellulite, obtuse veins, and dissolving fat deposits. I know it's been applied to hair loss before, but it's my understanding that it's not a significant treatment.

I'm not here to provide medical advice, but I would highly suggest you review these types of 'miracle treatments' with a very critical eye and stick to proven methods (such as finasteride and minoxidil) for the time being.

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I always agree on this statement! Even if you are at your wits end and try Avodart, even though it's not officially approved. Save the big bucks for a transplant session if need be

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Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1?

Thanks Future HT Doc!! Valuable insight. I sent you a PM with some more details of their claims about what they have revealed. Dont know if it makes sense since I am really not upto date with all the terms they used in the description.

are these shots workin? pretty interesting

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Well I mailed them and what I heard back was they did an accidental discovery 4 years back where they discovered "growth factors" could influence hair loss. One of the authors blog states that the Growth factors are proteins which bind to receptors on target cells, influence hair growth and are present locally (am paraphrasing somewhat, this is not my field).

So using some detective work they came up with some 5 growth factors, combined them, and did a bunch of studies where they made a bunch of mix and match proportions and tested it on 25 people. Of them one group of five showed results.

So they then did a double blind study on 750 people which was successful.
Blind experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Results are more than 80% growth for 90% patients.

Another report suggests this has something do to stem cell therapy, and the authors state that this "miracle drug" referred to as a molecule contains the five growth factors. 10 ml injections as "mesotherapy" every 3 weeks, some 8 times. The authors claim that since all growth factors occur locally in the human body, it is safe.

Now, my issues are- please note I am NOT an expert on all this or even as informed as most of you guys are. If I am wrong someplace, please inform me, I will appreciate it.Future HT Doc also pointed out a couple of valid points.

1. Growth has not really been broken out in what proportion where and how. Surely some would have seen a lot of success, some less. What exactly do they mean by 80% for more than 90%? What is that 80% growth...it could mean somebody just had 2 hairs pop up and that was "growth" and the rest remained as is?

2. If this involves stem cell therapy, isnt that dangerous, injecting somebody elses cells/organic material under your own skin?

3.Is mesotherapy even safe? Is their logic, its what the body has/used to have, so giving it back is ok? Would suck to wake up five years later and see all sorts of stuff on your head, dangerous stuff that is or have any other long term health issues

4.No pics beyond what is their on their website, only 3 pairs. Surely if there are so many success stories there are more pics?

5. When exactly is their patent due? They say they are working on approvals in different countries including the US, is it possible to check up the validity? The doctors/inventors names are Dr Debraj Shome and Dr Rinky Agarwal (lady)

Guys, if you can help me out with the above or come up with a list of qeustions I can attempt to dig out some answers.

This looks promising but... Their PA says, if this didnt work why would people visit from abroad, well there is a logic to that, but then again, to a drowning man, every string looks like a rope, as they say, so people going for it is not an answer by itself.

So your insight is appreciated.

If this works out, it could be helpful.

Thanks