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I think you can get the same amount from both procedures, but fue would take longer. I prefer fue as you dont get a strip scar, and if it had been widely available in 1998, I wouldnt have a strip scar now.
I'm sure the anti-fue crowd will be on here soon.
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thanks for the reply sparky and i know there are a lot of anti FUE people over here as well..so hope to hear from them as well..
I am fine with using multiple procedures as i think of this as a long term solution rather than a short term one..there are drawbacks with FUE and i am doing research to address them..the most important thing is to find somebody who has done 5000 + FUE in multiple procedures and look at the donor area...everybody says that the scarring is minimum but i think you truly have to see someone in person...i beleive you have had a procedure with Dr. Bisanga and i know he is not recommended on this forum...i have consulted docs in this forum and they dont seem to be too confident about the FUE tecnhique..hence, i am extending my research beyond this forum...how was your experiuence with him and would be able to share some light on the scarring situation on either yourself or any of his patients you might have met |
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Danielwiki,
I'm certainly not anti FUE, but for most people you will get more grafts from the strip method alone than from FUE alone. I say most because I'm sure there are people with great density but poor elasticity, and for those FUE would probably offer more grafts. Also, if your donor area is really big because of something like minimal balding, then you have far greater surface to harvest FUE grafts from, and you might be able to get more from FUE alone than from strip alone. When I measured my dad's donor area I figured that if his density was an average of 80 throughout and a doctor only took 30% of his grafts, then he could have around 6400 from FUE alone. The average for strip is between 4,000-8,000, so if my dad got equal growth and was able to harvest 30%, then he'd be right there. As it stands right now though, for the vast majority of patients strip alone will get you more grafts than FUE alone. Personally, I can't go the strip route because I have no idea how bald I will become and I think having a 30cm strip scar on the back of my head would severely limit my future options. |
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One other thing Daniel. I saw a person who had FUE done a few years back with a doctor in Cincinnati. I have no idea how many grafts he had, but judging from his level of baldness prior to surgery, I'd say he got about 3,000 grafts and there was NO evidence of scarring. He had his shaved with a razor and you couldn't see a thing. Now, this was years ago and I didn't study it nearly as closely as I would today, but I do remember looking to find scarring and seeing none.
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This debate has been going on for a long time but as both sides have said, there are pros and cons to it
I gather that ultimately, its YOU, the patient who dictates whether FUE is suitable for u, with your NW being the priority, and of cos finances. I was hoping to undergo FUE but a couple docs felt my hair loss could be worse down the road and i need to conserve. Hence FUE was prob not a gd choice for me if i indeed do lose more down the road. Yield is the criteria here ( according to them ). Just simply search in this forum and u will get plenty of info of FUE vs FUT
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Thanks for the reply TC 17 and wb280
TC 17..I am in the same boat as you...I dont have any idea how bald i will be and hence am not very comfortable with an ear to ear scar...Plus, i have noticed some surgeons take a higher scar these days and what would happen if you loose further down in the crown..it pretty much means to stay on propecia for life and also then pray that is works.. BTW - how did you come up with that number of 6,400....6,400 is 30% of 21,333..did you mean to say that your father has 21,333 grafts in the donor area and if yes, how did you get that number...that is awesome about the scarring....What clinic did he go to? If i decide to shortlist a doctor, i will definitely see a patient before taking the plunge...I also dont want to limit my options as far as the doctor is concerned...If a doctor is confident and shows good results, i will go to any corner of the world to get this done.. Wb 280 - I have been following the debate closely on this forum but i think a lot of it is skewed towards FUT because docs in this forum are not comfortable doing FUE procedures even after charging the big amount of money..I remember Dr. Feller who charges $10 per graft say something like "If you want to spend $30,000 for 3000 grafts and not get a good yield - be my guest"..now, he might be right as he is a very reputable doctor...but why would anybody get a procedure done when the surgeon in not confident..and i beleive he is the best for FUE on this forum...money should not be a consideration coz this is your head and you deserve the best for this....i think the key is to find a doctor who is confident and also has results to show for it..i really hope that someone leads the way in FUE and i am confident it will happen sooner than later.. |
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Dr. Wolf is in Cincinatti. He is real good.
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I saw that thread too! Actually I did ask spex to conduct an online
consultation with doc feller n he felt I m not suitable for fue due to potential losses in future n I might exhaust too much donor too early dude,nobody likes a ear to ear scar but some hair loss folks like myself we ve got no choice as we r not suitable fue candidates it's recommended u consult online with a couple docs recommended here to gauge if u r indeed suitable for fue gd luck!
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I know someone who has had 8000 fue, 1k of these are from the beard and chest and the rest from his head. He shaves his head every 2 days and you cant see any fue marks at all. He did however have an average density of 110 pr sq cm. He went from a very diffuse NW6 to a fairly thick NW1.
This is someone that I know, and prefers not to be indentified, but i'm sure you will be happy to take my word for it that i'm not lieing. It has taken him 4 years so far, and he still wants a few hundred more in his crown. This is the highest fue case I have ever come across that is predominatly scalp hair. Hes a very lucky guy!
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