I am posting these on behalf of Dr. Keller of Chicago, IL who is interested in recommendation on our network.

Below are the surgical details and photos of this case.

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Thios patient received 4600 grafts over 2 hair transplant surgeries.

The postoperative pictures are after both surgeries.

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Bill:

I think the results looks excellent...great transformation--the after pictures make the patient look years younger...of course, we're only seeing certain angles, but, it appears that Dr. Keller does outstanding work!

well, the transformation looks amazing. *but* I really can't tell with these professional photos that do not demonstrate what other coalition surgeons web sites do (i.e. H&W)...these photos do no justice for someone who is seriously considering a hair transplant. They are professional and were taken completelly irrespective of a ht perspective... they show us nothing with respect to the details of his ht: close ups of the hair line, the scar, the density in the entire area...none of this is shown...that is what I want to see as a potential ht candidate...*NOT* pics of him and his kids under stockings for the holidays...really don't care about that...I could post some pics of me opening a present with a wig on, but I don't think anyone would care to view that either...seems a little sappy and emotional for me...proves nothing except appeal to the emotions for the weak in soul...

In addition: an average of 2,300 grafts a procedure is a far cry from what docs who are considered 'top-notch, world class' are perfroming these days, as I would assume this is one of his "show-case" patients if its up here for review...what gives?

Also, I have noticed over the past couple of weeks that quite a few docs are up for potential membership recognition. I don't know if Im mixing up docs or if there really are quite a few up for recognition. If Im mixing up the docs and your really only promoting two or something, then please excuse my misunderstanding, *BUT* otherwise, I find it somewhat alarming that so many docs are being promoted all at once. What gives? These photos are by NO means adequate for ANYONE to determine if this is top notch, world class results...Far from it.

Not knockin' the doc', or the forum here--as I might be wrong and there are not that many docs going up for potential recomendation and this is not the only pic you have for this doc...*BUT* if Im not wrong, then Im begining to lose respect and any sense of credibility for this forum...If I am, then I apologize and 100% retract my statements...

as ng2gb said the results look great but need standard pre and post op photos with same lighting, angles, etc to fully evalutate; in the third picture, the lighting makes his hair look as dense as a teenagers

Results hard to judge due to the picture quality. I am sure the Doc does good work but why put forth such awful pic quality. If your reputation as a Doc is on the line, take pride in presenting your work more accurately. ng2gb is correct.

I agree with some of the above statements. This is not at all the type of photos that should be submitted for review to be a recommended doc. I am glad that some of the photos do in fact show the "true" density as the others are not good quality and I believe many of us would be more upset if these were presented by some of the chain clinics.

I too have noticed a lot more physicians being recommended but they are not (in many cases) providing the quality photos that are expected. Some one like Dr. Nakatsui gave very detailed photos with closeups of the density and outlined the cm2 area and a graft count to prove of his abilities. The photos were very well lighted with several angles and many before and afters. He deservedly was allowed entry.

I am trying to keep an open mind but we really need better stuff. These docs might be the most skilled but they have to prove it.

Thank you to those who far who have offered your feedback.

I want everyone to know that after I received these photos, I have emailed Dr. Keller for additional photos of varying angles including a top down picture if available.

Though I agree that higher resolution photos and additional angles would be helpful determining the accuracy of the result, I have found that a number of physicians simply aren't taking them. However, one of my goals for 2008 is to work with our physicians in helping them present higher quality photos using varying angles to display a more accurate representation of the result.

Regarding session sizes, though I am a firm believer in ultra refined hair transplant megasessions when appropriate for the patient, these large megasessions aren't always possible. Additionally there are varying philosophies amongst physicians and many believe that limiting the width of the donor strip upon extraction will mimimize the risk of scar stretching.

Regular sessions of 2500 to 3000 follicular unit grafts are still considered megasessions to date. Dr. Keller does perform sessions of this size on a regular basis when appropriate for the patient. See a patient presented who received 2800 grafts in one hair transplant session by clicking here. Many positive comments were received.

I will continue to work on getting additional photos.

Thanks again,

Bill

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o.k. I will try and keep "an open mind" as Nervous Nelly said, because I respect him and his level-headed opinion...

*BUT*...I gotta question a few things here...

..."a number of physicians simply aren't used to taking such pictures"...(i.e. well detailed and documented)...
Bill, your a very straight lace kinda guy. I don't doubt your sincerity...

*BUT*...are you telling me that these "DOCTORS"...who make 5-15 THOUSAND dollars a DAY can NOT hire a photogropher to take descent pics of before and after results as their ENTIRE profession and money making abilities rests upon these marketing strategies!?!?!?...How much money do these docs have to pay to be on this site again?... and they can't take reasonable photos, but rather have a "family photographer" take photos in black and white and over a Christmas setting?....


this is seriously disturbing to me...

If I am wrong in ANY respect, then I apoligize and retract...

*BUT*....if these photos were NOT the qualifications with which these docs were held to become potentially recomended on this forum, then what was?....Im curious to know?

Once again, if I am ill-informed in any way, then I apologize. But this is the first time I have found this forum to have such strange and recently agressive "recommendations" of docs over the past couple of weeks...


I would really like to know some substantial facts and evidence as a premise behind why these docs were precisely chosen as potential members in the coalition in the first place as I expected more out of this forum and sincerely hope I am 100% wrong regarding all of this...

we will see...hope Im not kicked out of the forum for my honest, blunt opinons...thought that is what this place was for...

I just find the assuming naievity and self-assuming ignorance with which this posting was addressed to be insulting to say the least...

One question, please answer me this;

(i) the doc is probably averaging 8K a day and he can not pay for some good before and after photos?...

On top of that, why was he considered for recommendation in the first place?...

His ENTIRE profession is based upon his marketing skills (every one knows this...look at Armani...) and he couldn't have at LEAST descent pics taken?...

I would seriously like to know the answers to these questions...

Either Pat has 5 new girl friends he's gotta take care of this holiday season or Im off my rocker and COMPLETELY missing something...either way, would like to know...
please advise...

NG2GB,

I am glad that you do respect my opinion. I understand your frustration and believe me when I say "I hear you". These photos are definitely not the best and I am glad that you spoke up. Bill understands this and will listen to our posts. He has stated that he is attempting to get better photos.

I am a big supporter of Dr. Shapiro, but his website sucks. These docs are incredibly busy and yes, they do make a lot of money but their overhead is also massive. The are not going to hire professionals to take the photos, however in a competitive market they had better prove themselves if they hope to thrive. I think that for too long many have gotten away with poor quality, deceptive (in my opinion) photos and now with the internet that shit don't fly. They have to now demonstrate their true skills and we the consumer expect more.

Somehow they all need to find a way to allocate resources to taking high quality photos and market themselves. Some are now doing this well such as Dr. Feller and H&W. It is challenging for them I'm sure as it takes a hell of a lot of time and commitment when they are already super busy doing what they do best. Hopefully more and more clinics will meet the demand.

NN,

I do respect your opinion and you have much more experience in researching this than I do. I just find it very difficult to believe with as much money as these docs are making that they can not hire a decent photographer...Im not that familiar with Shapiros' website, but look at H&Ws'...Fantastic! Shows everything...Now these pics of this doc on this posting...HORRIBLE!!!!!...shows nothing. It looks like a commercial for a Hallmark movie channel holiday movie....

I heard top docs make 10-30K a DAY!!! They can't hire a photographer to take descent pics (which will only ADD to their income) with this? It doesn't take ANY additional time or effort out of their day. Simply pay the photogropher and have him take the pics. Simple in my mind...

*REGARDLESS*...

the pics that were submitted on this posting for that doc were HORRIBLE...Regarldess of money spent on them, they were absolutely not based on hair transplants or "before" and "afters" in ANY respect...