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Old 05-01-2008, 03:29 PM
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By the way very very nice work,and great pictures Im super impressed with the postop work .
Like Feller said densepack lateral slit Well done
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:44 PM
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Dr. Hasson

I clearly did not mention any particular clinics with my response to Eman, and yet, I get a post from Joe, which vaporized like it never existed, and your post appears in its place.

Why is your clinic so defensive over my statement that I personally don't advocate the splitting of grafts to increase session sizes?
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:05 PM
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Dr. Gable,

That is exactly my point. You make the implication but clearly avoid specifying who does this. If you are aware of clinics who do this, I would like to know who you think they are.

Very simply, actually...
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I'm so sick of hearing about this spitting of grafts. I'm trying to add more photos, but until then...take a look at my RESULTS! I was a norwood 6+! So if anyone is able to achieve this kind of density out of 8,000 FU's by spitting grafts...SHOW ME! Here is my website until I can figure out how to add photos to this post:
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Bobman are you saying you think Dr Gable is accusing H@W of splitting grafts to obtain higher graft counts .
Just wondering because I havent heard about this possibility in a LONG time yet all of a sudden your sick of it.
Yes you have great results that your type of density would be hard to obtain by over splitting grafts.
Maybe there is some behind the scenes talk going on but Dr Gable just made a statement not a outright accusation.
Asking him to reveal who he may or may not think splits grafts is like asking Dr Hasson why he doesnt call out Armani for the bullshit he does.
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Dr. hasson

Please show me where in my statement I accused anyone of splitting grafts.

And you did not answer my question, why is your clinic so defensive over my statement that I personally don't advocate the splitting of grafts to increase session sizes?
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The sudden and aggressive attitude on the part of dr. hasson, jotronic, and even one his patients, is disturbing and uncalled for.

I posted one of my patients to demonstrate the kind of consistent megasession work I perform in my Portland clinic and find myself attacked for what can only be interpreted as a paranoid perception of words.

Believe it or not, I do not have dr. hasson or any other HT doc on my mind when I answer questions from the public. If dr. hasson can accept this fact, then he would realize that his unique interpretation of my words was way off base.

My point was to make sure that I MYSELF am not accused of graft splitting, and that I wouldn't stoop to this technique just to artificially inflate the number of grafts used and perhaps appear to cover a larger area. There was no reference to any other physician or clinic in that statement. This was a direct answer to a direct question by Eman. It had nothing to do with HIM.

What is more curious is dr. hasson's extreme reaction to the wrong interpretation of these words. I must wonder if my practice were situated a few thousand miles from his, instead of a few hundred, would he have been bothered at all.

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Dr. Hasson and Dr. Gabel,

I think you both are being a little over sensitive on this topic.

By discussing his own personal clinical practices, Dr. Gabel's post answered Eman's question about this particular patient. In my opinion, it is unfair to assume that he was making an implication that Hasson and Wong split follicular unit grafts.

On the flip side, I can understand why Dr. Hasson and his staff are a bit sensitive about this subject because on more than one occasion patients and physicians alike have accused them (some implicit and some explicit) of regularly splitting follicular grafts to inflate graft counts. Unfortunately therefore, the topic of "splitting grafts" has become somewhat attached to Hasson and Wong simply because of their consistent higher graft counts, which I believe to be highly unfair.

That said, I encourage Hasson and Wong not to take general statements so personally and let their impressive results speak for themselves.

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