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Old 01-04-2008, 03:19 AM
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It is manufacted by primordial performance, the same people who made dermacrine sustain (now called sustain alpha). Rules say not to post anything of commercial nature so I will not post a link.

Google up dermacrine and go to the site and look at the product called toco-8. This is not a snake oil company and they have a pretty good reputation at anabolicminds.com.

For those who like to look at specifics, here is a link to the patent information on the formula:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF...BAJ&dq=7211274
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It is manufacted by primordial performance, the same people who made dermacrine sustain (now called sustain alpha). Rules say not to post anything of commercial nature so I will not post a link.

Google up dermacrine and go to the site and look at the product called toco-8. This is not a snake oil company and they have a pretty good reputation at anabolicminds.com.

For those who like to look at specifics, here is a link to the patent information on the formula:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=AtF...BAJ&dq=7211274
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:55 AM
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I know them well from anabolicminds, Matt. I am really interested to see what this is about.

Is it a topical like (most) of their other stuff?

Can you PM me alink? I can't find it on their website.

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Matt,

Since you are not a spammer, you are welcome to post a link to the product in a single post. I only have a problem with blatant and obvious promotional content OR continual posting such as in a signature.

I have not looked into this yet however, I did recently do some research on and wrote an article on Vitamin E for hair loss.

I will take a look more into your findings soon I hope.

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Old 01-04-2008, 10:26 AM
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It's pretty much the same exact thing you were talking about, Bill. I think your article nails down the facts perfectly and you reference the same US patent that I did in this post.

Either way I think a vitamin E complex would be a good addition to any hair loss regimen.

Anyways here's the link to the product with the description and whatnot, it is pretty detailed and in my opinion I would not see this as a snake oil company:

http://www.primordialperformance.com/toco.cfm

Also anabolicminds is a great fitness and supplement forum, I'm happy to see someone on here that is familiar with it.
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Interesting, I think I'm going to order up a batch this weekend before my HT and give it a go....sounds like it could be a brother in arms to the Nizoral....also, seems just like a positive supplement to take hair-loss aside.
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Hey Matt have you ordered from that website before? I am very interested about this product, it sounds to have many other health benefits besides hair. If you have ordered did you use a credit card?
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Arrie, I can vouch for primordial performance. Always delivered and always quick to respond to emails.

(ps, my only "relationship" with them is that I've ordered from them)
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Thanks Rick I am always hesitant to order anything online with a credit card. Thanks for your help.
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