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Here I Grow Again · #1 **Top** 12-13-2007, 11:11 AM

Here's my pics to 1 yr.

Bill - Managing Publisher · #2 **Top** 12-13-2007, 11:44 AM

HIGA,

I think your results look really good. As I stated in your other thread, before and immediately postoperative pictures would help us better evaluate your results. but it appears you had 2400 grafts over a larger bald area which has given you some nice coverage and some hair density. Any plans to go for future work?

Bill

Here I Grow Again · #3 **Top** 12-13-2007, 11:48 AM

Thanks Bill,

I will see if I can get some immediate post pics from Dr. Epstein and post.

Yes I have been contemplating a second pass but want to first enjoy what I just got for a little bit ;-)

frog · #4 **Top** 12-14-2007, 12:12 AM

a really good result?! again am i missing something here...i can not see any difference at all hardly, and why is there only one pre op picture (an unclear side one) and not a top one, front one? why is it purple also?

i can not see a 2400 difference at all ..anyone else feel this is a very good result??

is that why there have been no replies, everyone just being polite?

the hair looks shaved down pre op and just grown out after , where are the 2400 grafts??? what happened here?
there is clearly not 2400 growth in my opinion.. i think your assessment on many pictures is somewhat misguiding to the viewing public.

why is there still so much shockloss after 9 months.. is the permanent?? i thought shockloss occured around the scar and for a few months..not 9 .. is it all back now?

anyone else think this is "a really good result" for a 2400 grafts?

3 + 10 months, where is the 2400 difference?

Jorge1977 · #5 **Top** 12-14-2007, 04:01 AM

I have to agree with Frog

Jfree · #6 **Top** 12-14-2007, 05:02 AM

HIGA, Don't take this as a personal critique. The most important thing is how you feel.

But with all due respect (to Bill... and even Dr Epstein), I don't see much difference here.

Is there more hair from month 3 to month 10? I guess. But it sure doesn't look like 2,400 grafts/5,000-plus new hairs.

These photos (3 and 10 months) look like something you'd see in a cheesy propecia ad - some fuzz, but very minimal growth. I don't think I've ever seen such little improvement from month 3 to 10 for this size of a transplant.

I would contact Dr Epstein pronto.

hairthere · #7 **Top** 12-14-2007, 05:39 AM

I have to concur, these are not "WOW" results. It looks as if the 2400 were spread out over the entire area which would have provided coverage, but not density. I'm guessing that's what HIGA wanted as he seems pleased. Most Docs probably would have packed those 2400 into the front and then done the vertex/crown in a second surgery. HIGA if you could please supply immediate post-op pics as Bill suggested. Thanks!

thanatopsis_awry · #8 **Top** 12-14-2007, 06:38 AM

The lack of a top-down picture to reference at ~12months may be exagerating the effect, or lackthereof, of improvement (?). After the 7th month mark, at least to me, I found it hard to get a good grasp of things -- and certaintly a *ton* can happen between the 7th month to the 12th.

I have to say though that I too was quite "underwhelmed" by the difference -- it just didn't feel at all like 2400 grafts. Like Bill/hairthere mentioned, it looks like the grafts were widely distributed over a vast area; perhaps that, along with no top-down photos and your hair charachteristics are playing a large role in this sentiment.

Bottom line, though, is that you are pleased and you know your hair better than any of us ever could.

Bill - Managing Publisher · #9 **Top** 12-14-2007, 08:30 AM

Frog,

This is a patient displaying their results, not a solicitation. Why are you acting as if there is some kind of deception here?

I also love how you selected two of the most blurry and least quality pictures to broadcast your point. Weren't you just raving in another post about the important of high quality pictures?

But do you honestly think that 2400 grafts placed over a large balding region is going to give someone a "wow" result?

I think these are a better comparison.

3 Months

11 Months

Keep in mind also that we don't have any preoperative pictures to view at this point.

Bill

frog · #10 **Top** 12-14-2007, 09:25 AM

oh right, i the one with the agenda ...

i feel that your assessment of this is as a "really good result" is way off the mark as only confirmed by every other poster here who were prepared to actually be honest. i only chose from the pictures provided as they were an exact match and thought they were a clear example this is not the result you make it out to be.
yes i feel accurate , clear, pictures are vital to assess results i also believe honest opinions are required also...

if this patient only grew his hair out from his 3 month situation/pre op situation, the difference would have been very similar regard less of the 2400 grafts?? in my opinion. sorry didn't realise i wasn't allowed an opinion...

i will let everyone elses opinion clarify that this is not a really good result even though you think it is. maybe we are all wrong..

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