Hello everyone,

I've been hearing a lot about copper peptides by Mark H (Hi Mark...I'm sure you're reading this =P) so I've decided to do some research on copper peptides and the benefit it might have to hairloss sufferers. I must admit, the research does show some promise. I haven't seen anywhere in the research that copper peptides will regrow completely lost hair (though the folligen website points to this), but that it can increase the speed of a dormant follicle to the growing phase. It also seems that it might thicken the hair shafts, possibly creating a fuller appearance.

So has anyone used any copper peptide technology products. If so, what has your experience been? Have you noticed any difference by using the product and if so, what was the difference? Thicker appearance of hair? Faster Growth? New Growth? Anything?

Please post your experiences here for everyone's benefit. Thanks.

Bill

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Like I said in the other thread I used American Crew's copper peptides shampoo and conditioner for a little while but I dropped them because I am fond of my regular shampoo and conditioner. I may try folligen's cream when I get around to it.


I've looked into copper peptides periodically for the last few years. The science looks great, but there is just next to NO anectodal evidence that it actually does much to write home about. Perhaps if we get enough guys willing to participate in a little study of our own?

Anyone willing to try a copper peptide product for 6 months or so? I think if we got 8 or 10 guys to do it, we can possibly get some kind of notion of its efficacy.

-Robert

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Well I know Mark H is in since he is already using it. I wouldn't hesitate...so count me in. I'll wait though until we get some more people interested in giving it a shot to see if it helps with anything. Of course, we have to consider variables...some use minox, some don't...some use Propecia, some don't, etc. I use Propecia but not minox.

Who else will participate in this study?

Bill

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I think it would depend on how long a minoxidil user has been using it. I've been on it for years so I'm not getting any growth benefit from it - only maintenance. I'm also going through a killer "fall shed" which I always get for some reason so I'd have to take that into consideration if I were to take part. We'd have to set up some guidelines. If anyone is interested in participating, reply to the thread! Let's get something going here!

-Robert

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I actually do have some professional anecdotal evidence, but I'm restricted from directly quoting.

I think the most important use for CP is in encouraging faster growth during that long desert that HT'ers like myself have to cross.

It is possible also that there is a synergistic relationship between Minox/propecia and CP, but most particularly with the former, since CP apparently helps open the follicle.

Finally...and this is based on nothing at all...I'm concerned that the exposure that I get from shampoo and conditioner is inadequate to provide significant benefit, which is why I'm getting the spray and applying about halfway between minox appications.

I used CP fotr the first 2 weeks post op, and the shampoo since then...and even tho I'm only six weeks, I've a hint that I'm starting to get early growth.

mark

Mark,

I agree that the exposure that is granted from a shampoo and conditioner is not going to be ideal - that's why I ditched them so quickly too. I think that the cream or the spray would be the way to go.

I also question the concentrations and purity of something made available to consumers as opposed to the CP that was utilized in studies.

As a result of all this talk, I may go ahead and give it another try. Nothing to lose, right?

-Robert

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Yes, thats my perspective, nothing to lose. I can't imagine trying to rub in a cream though.

I'm looking for this spray to disappear into my scalp in a way minox liquid doesn't....we'll see.

your point of cp concentration in the product is important. perhaps after I receive it, i'll be able to quantify it and compare.

Certainly minoxidil would never be effective if taken only once a day in shampoo, so who knows?

This is true. However, this is where it gets complicated: is the absorption rate of CP with the delivery mechanisms used allowing it to penetrate at a quicker rate?

Hmm...looks like I'm going to have to do some research.

-Robert

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Hey Robert, I don't think I need to point out that I'm way out of my depth here. I do believe CP has real possibilities, because I'm reasonably good at vetting out the scams.

I'm glad you and a few others are on board with looking into this more carefully, because this board could well be doing the hair loss community a serious service in doing so.

mark

Interesting note about the shampoo and conditioner. Perhaps the spray is the way I'd go. The cream seems like it would be too thick. I'll participate in this...let me know what product you all want to try. I'd be a bit adverse the the cream because it appears like it would be messy and it probably wouldn't mesh well with areas where there's a good amount of hair.

Bill

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