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Old 12-05-2007, 12:19 PM
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Im creating a new post in an attempt to get some more specifics regarding one of my questions on another post. Many of us virgin scalps are curious as to how limiting a hair transplant can be with respect to various styling options. I would say that AT LEAST 70% of guys on ht websites have the same hair do: parted to one side, and combed over. Im in NO WAY knocking ANYBODY as it appears that you ALL have dense hair and look great, *BUT* -

1. Im curious if any of you below style your hair the following way due to a lack of density or do you just prefer this look?
2. Another question is do transplanted hairs lay on the head differently (wiry) even after the temporary kinkiness fades away?

*PLEASE ANYONE who has undergone a hair transplant respond with some specifics (i.e. Mrjb, Nervous Nelly, B-Spot, Bill, Pushing40, etc, etc...) Help us virgin scalps make our decision easier. I still have NOT seen a ht in person. The first guy in the examples below is a PRIME example, because he appears to be young and most young guys don't like this hair style. The following is merely a handful of examples (from H&W) I could go on and on. Im begining to think that there is not enough density for most guys to style their hair another way. *PLEASE give us some specifics regarding this question as I know Im not the only virgin scalp wondering about this. I have organized this and even numbered my questions. Thanks. By the way, you will notice that some of these guys had 5K plus grafts and were not NW6 or 7s', that leaves one wondering if some guys just will not have enough density to style differently, no matter HOW MANY grafts are transplanted. Alot of these guys look like they do indeed have density and hence the question 'can you style it differently'..You all look great though. Examples:

http://hassonandwong.com/patient_gallery/photo_viewer.p...ansplant_type=normal

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Old 12-05-2007, 12:44 PM
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The first example is the most intriguing, for as you said, he is young.....examining the pic though, I gotta say, I'd be shocked if he couldn't "stylishly" push his hair forward and put in some hair creme or wax and texturize it up....and it would look quite dense and natural.

My guess is that when clinics take pics they want them with zero product being applied to hair (which elimates most dashing styles right there).
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hmm..very good point about the clinics not wanting any products in their hair. I really didn't think about that when I was making this post. Does anyone know if this is true of H&W? Because ALL of these examples are from there. If this is really the case then I would encourage clinics to show patients with different hair styles. I seriously doubt that Im the only one who noticed this (that they virtually all have the sweeped over look). I think most young guys (20-30's) view this as the #1 detraction from a ht. I bet business would boom a lot more if they showed some cooler hair styles. I know that I use a styling wax in my hair and it REALLY thickens it up. Imagine what I could do with all of that hair!

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I completely agree with you; but a modest application of some styling wax or cream would add a whole other dimension of perceived density.

I also agree with you that showing various hairstyles regardless(particularly for young guys) would be welcomed and boost business. Personally, I would love to see what these HT results would look like relative to how I will be styling my hair.

EDIT -- Armani is a smart marketer and how he styles people's hair is a key component, imo. Even though I think his purported FUE results are bogus, there is still a reason SOOOOOOOOO many 20-30 year olds go to him.
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I absolutely agree on ALL points...

Regarding H&W and not using styling products (if its true and I would like to know) I think your correct that using products could potentially be misleading and making the patients appear to have more density than they really do. It is comendable if H&W don't use them intentionally.

*BUT*...What Im saying is, it doesn't have to be one OR the other. I would like to see two sets of pics:
1. Dry, plain hair..."here is patient Harry Johnson with no products in his hair"
2. Geled, styled looking good..."here is patient Harry Johnson looking cool ready to troll for some serious action tonight..."

that way we know what our options are, because right now I think a lot of guys are like me and they think that ht are very limiting to styling and your stuck with the sweep over look. your right about Armani.

I think H&W should take my suggestions, business would SERIOUSLY boom if guys knew what styles they can do their knew do. Of course I should get a 10% cut (of all the new business) since it was my idea. Dr. Hasson if your reading PLEASE take my advice. Bus' will sky-rocket! I guarentee you.
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honestly, i think it's such a case-by-case basis. after my first ht my styling was limited because the density in the hairline wasn't great. so my hair looked best when styled back or spiked straight up. it gave off the best illusion of density. but i wanted more options and i'm hoping that's what this 2nd procedure will help me to achieve. of course i won't know for sure for another 4 months or so. regarding the way the hair sits on my head, the ht hairs are just like the native hairs in that regard.
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hairthere,

THANK YOU!!! Finally, a post plant guy answers my question DIRECTLY!!! KUDOS!

I have to disagree about the case by case thing though. I mean, come on look at ALL of those pics I put up. Its almost comical that they all have the exact same hair do. You know there are a lot more just like it on EVERY ht website too.
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Check out everclears blog he actually has a pic of himself getting ready to go clubbing and he is only 4 months post op. I do beleive he used some dermamatch, but I mean only 4 months post op with that hair style is great! This is an excellent post it worries me that no one is really responding...
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yes I would like to hear from as many post-plants as possible, and I know this question is a #1 for a lot of us pre -plants. But, it has only been up for a couple hours. we will see. I will def bump it later...

Regarding everclear, I will check that out. But, how can one really tell if he is wearing that make up stuff (dermamatch)?
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NGTGB,

This is an important issue you bring up. Before I continue, I'll let you know that most of the patients you posted are at least 40 years of age including the first one that you posted.

I think a lot of why you see somewhat similar styles is due to a couple of reasons. Yes, some do not have enough density to pull off a multitude of styles. This is a limitation to hair transplantation and we have never stated or implied otherwise. No matter how many grafts we get in one session we will never get enough to replace the original density on patients with medium to high levels of loss. Smaller cases, we can, but then it becomes a question of whether or not we should. One thing that cannot be denied however is that these guys not only look better, they feel better.

Another reason, and I this is just my opinion based on observation, is that many patients are simply afraid to step outside of the box when it comes to hairstyles. Some tend to be a tad conservative or more "clean cut" and are not interested in using gel or spiking their hair or what have you. We do have a number of patients in our gallery however with a wide variety of hair styles so I don't want anyone to think that these particular styles are the only ones that wind up being suitable. Some are spiked and gelled.

Take my case though. I was in a pretty deep deficit when I first arrived for round one with Master Wong being a full blown NW6/7 with two donor scars from previous procedures and of course the nasty mini-grafts sticking up at a 90 degree angle. While I may not be able to pull off every hair style I want with zero weaknesses I do like trying new things. The collage below shows various styles I've played with over the past few years and while they may not be perfect I do like the options.

Yes, I've had about 8000 grafts but my hair is no better than the next guy's. One thing that I'm happy about is that I cannot be accused of brushing my hair back just to hide my thinner crown because I do expose it sometimes with a few of the styles shown above.

Bottom line, your hair style depends on what YOU are comfortable trying and of course how young you feel. This is not to say that a NW6 with 5000 grafts will be able to pull off a caesar unless he wants to try a monk at the same time Different styles fit different patients and what they feel comfortable with. That is what it comes down to.

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