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Old 04-02-2007, 09:21 AM
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Thanks Dr. B

I hope it works for the people who use it as it will just provide some more ammo in our fight against hairloss.
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:33 PM
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Laser treatment and/or the laser comb has been out for a while. I just think that if it did produce desired "significant" results you would of heard of it by now. Improved circulation to the scalp is no match for genetics.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:10 AM
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Amen Orion. i'm with you

As much as I want it to work, I cannot bring myself to "endorse" it
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:07 AM
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Laser treatment and/or the laser comb has been out for a while. I just think that if it did produce desired "significant" results you would of heard of it by now. Improved circulation to the scalp is no match for genetics.
As I mentioned previously, the results take time and are typically most noticeable in the areas where the thinning is actively occurring (i.e. NOT the bald areas). Also, previously mentioned, I DON'T think its a ciruculation issue. The research points more toward cellular ATP production in the mitochondria. For more info on laser therapy mechanisms, buy the textbook: The Science of Low Power Laser Therapy by Tiina Karu--she's responsible for a large portion of the research into how lasers affect cellular metabolism.
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I personally like how it states how the woman in this case scenerio didn't use Propecia (God I hope not since it's not recommended for women) :P

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4610841...7594537546001/

This of course is ashame but seems to be true with Finasteride and Minoxodil as well

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My gut feeling is that the more hair you have, the better results you'll see with the laser. It is not really all that different than finasteride and minoxidil in that way.
This goes to show that none of these are close to being CURES for baldness...only to be used as tools to help glorify your existing hair with the potential to regrow some new hairs. But completely bald areas rarely experience new growth at all, and if they do, very little.

But I think laser therapy is worth looking into ESPECIALLY for those who cannot use finasteride or minoxodil.

BUT ALSO from what I can see, it's also the most TIME CONSUMING process out of the 3 FDA approved treatments.

So my question is...and this may not be known yet...but:

1. What is the most recommended laser therapy device?
2. How much is it (cost)?
3. How often should it be used for optimal treatment? (and please don't say the more the better :P).

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Dr. Bauman,

I've just started trying to do more research on laser therapy because some are buying into it and some are not. As for me, I like to do extensive research before I buy into anything. I admit, I have NEVER spent any time until now researching it. That being said, I'd like your feedback on this thread.

FDA Approval

Additionally, the PDF document that you posted above claims "The clinical data demonstrates that the lasercomb is effective in PROMOTING hair growth and does not present any safety issues"

Is promoting hair growth really the same as growing new hair? It does appear that according to this document that the existing hair may thicken, but what about regrowing new hair?

Penny for your thoughts.

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Old 04-19-2007, 10:17 AM
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Is promoting hair growth really the same as growing new hair? It does appear that according to this document that the existing hair may thicken, but what about regrowing new hair?
I think we can all agree that medications like propecia/finasteride and minoxidil only work on follicles that are still alive, right? Meaning, both minoxidil and propecia DO NOT create new density, they simply reverse the miniaturization resulting from MPB. (All of us who treat or suffer from hair loss know that a hair does you no good if you can't see it.)
When you read the literature on minox or fin, the increased density over time is actually increased TERMINAL hair density. That means that the intermediate, 'indeterminate,' vellous or near-vellous hairs were not counted.

Over the years, I got a few calls from David Michaels (LaserComb/Lexington, Intl) regarding 'terminal hair' and its definition, so I'm assuming that this was an important issue for the FDA. In the Lexington 510(k), under "Performance Data" it specifically says:
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"Subjects in the LaserComb treatment group had significantly greater increases in mean terminal hair density than subjects in the placebo group."
I can tell you from personally seeing several of the photos from the study that this is true. There was a reversal of miniaturization of hair on the microscopic photos. Also, when the lasercomb data was presented in Orlando this Spring, it was all about the increases in TERMINAL HAIR density.
(This would also explain why clinically laser works better on those patients who have more hair.) Hopefully, they'll publish the data in a peer-reviewed journal, so we can all dissect it!
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Hi Dr. Bauman

Thanks for the info. My issue is there are other credable docs as yourself who disagree with Laser therapy, citing it is a farce.. I realize that this is par for the course in many industries. Is there any explanation for this difference of opinions among top doctors?
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excellent device the laser comb.....excellent as another means of desperate men wanting to believe something will help the one of the most devastating things they will ever go through, "baldness." Thanks to updated fashion, another great device is providing better results than the laser comb. That would be the razor. A "skin-head" will do just fine in this day and age. If not use a quality surgeon (hasson) and weather the time and 30K, and have a nice decent head of hair.

Enough with this nonsense. The Laser Comb is just plain silly.

I've endured the surgeries with Dr. Keene. She never "billed me" for laser treatments and simply smirked when asked about it. I have no bald spots anymore. I have no detectable signs of hair transplantation. My hair is not as thick as when I was 17, but it can do most hairstyles.

They should call it the "laser comb over." It will make what little hair you have appear thicker to better cover up the spots where theres no hair. C'mon guys. You wouldn't buy insurance that "might" cover you. Throw this device in the garbage and save the board from becoming an infomercial. Some of you guys here are being so diplomatic. But you probably have no patience in your life for others that want to sell you iffy products. Why mess with this. Many here know that this BALDNESS thing affected your life on every level from social to economoic. We know enough now to JUST SAY NO. Open -mindedness should not be open-pocketness.

I will return to my exile. Don't want to disturb any paying doctors here. Just needed to save my tongue from being bitten off completely.

Thank you to all the great doctors here that get real results.
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Bezane,

I agree with your take on this, your straight talk is welcome and just the truth some guys need to save them from going broke chasing the dream! This laser stuff is no match for genetics. HT is the best option.
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