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Old 03-02-2008, 02:01 PM
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Well-- the look has really improved, still got a long way to go!!!!
For HT #3, we have to hit the sides/lateral humps to tie-everything in and do what I can for the crown.
I hope to get 1500-2000 grafts when I decide to go.

My hair is buzzed down to a #4 guard in these pictures (about a week ago)



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Old 03-02-2008, 02:02 PM
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Ok Guys (and Gals) finally got some pics of my 2nd HT ---14 months post-op and 2 1/2 years after HT #1---- It has been a journey, to say the least, and it still continues!

Quite honestly, I thought I would do 2 largish sessions, and then a touch up session for #3.

But, I have continued to lose some hair, albeit slightly, in my laterals. Enough to finally convince me to begin Propecia and Rogaine foam

I am hopeful that my loss and subsequent HT's can help those trying to make the decision a bit easier.

I am very limited by 3 factors: limited donor, slightly less then average characteristics, and LOTS of real estate to cover.

After HT #1 (3100 grafts) I thought that I would be cool with one really big session and maybe some fue to finish off. I had a very thin scar ---you could see it faintly for 2-3 days after I buzzed to a #2 guard.

For HT#2, I really pressed Dr. Shapiro to "Go large" I wanted to hit 4K grafts, really wanted to be over 7K grafts total, thought it would really make a difference. I ended up with 3521 grafts and some issues with a tight scalp--- my first HT we went 1.25 cm wide--

I asked Dr. Shapiro to try and go to 1.5 (to cut out the old scar, and still get max grafts) BUT-- if my scalp was too tight, take some of the old scar but really focus on getting the maximum number of grafts. So we ended up 1.35cm wide on the right side, 1.1cm in the back and 1.2cm on the left side.
The coverage was excellent, but as Dr. Shapiro worked, it really became apparent that we were not going to be able to hit the crown very much at all, so we focused on really getting good coverage, reinforcing the hairline and setting the stage for #3. Trico was used for this closure.
As some of you know, I really fought healing up after this HT. I already had a tight scalp, was forced to go back to work early and lift/climb telephone poles, and my body really fought the internal disolveable sutures. So much so, that I got quite a bit of an infection and had to kill it off with anti-biotics--- that is really no fun, trust me.
After all of this, I end up with a scar wider than my first one about 4-4.5mm, but pretty uniform except for one spot on the right side that is slightly wider.
I will not be doing internal sutures for HT#3

So HT #3-- as many of you know, I started law school full time, so it has limited my opportunities to go for a HT, so I do not know when I will be going-- I dunno it could be soon, could be end of summer.

I think what will happen is we will really do a safe width (for me) this time, at the expense of any grafts I get. If my scar ends up like my first one, I think I will just do fue after that. I am going to be forced to use grafts slated for the crown and re-build my laterals b/c I care more about the front 2/3rds then the back 3rd.

2 things: I really hope everyone takes a close look at just how bald I was when I started, and then see where I am, and actually see where I am going to end up.
Also, I am more then happy with everything at this point, and even though my scar is wider than I would like, I still can get by with a pretty short haircut. I think I will be able to fue out a substantial amount of hair after my next strip, and perhaps experiment with some beard hair like some of my friends are doing in order to increase their donor source.

Anyway, I am still in this for the long haul and over the next year or so, we'll see where we go.
Any prayers offered up on my donor's behalf is greatly appreciated

Take Care,
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Jason,

It's great to see you post some updated photos! Clearly you have come a long way.

I am having some difficulty remembering what your hair looked like before so I'm going to have to refresh my memory by looking at your other album. For some reason, I thought your second hair transplant covered a lot more of your bald spot. Maybe you lost more hair?

Edit: I see that you tried to add to your first album too, yes the limit has been changed to 25 photos per album. Click here for the details on this.

I see you are in the midst of uploading more photos. I'll come back later tonight to view them all

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hi b,im in agreement with Bill.
your 2nd ht looked as if it had shrunk your crown considerably immediatly post op,but the new pics show a large area still.
is this down to the shortness/lighting?or do you feel youve lost more hair?
when is no3 sceduled?
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:09 PM
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Balody, there was a bit of work done in the sides of the crown, but overall I think the redness post-op was misleading--- there will be no serious effort to attack the crown until the laterals/sides are built up first--- more than likely you will see my crown shrink a bit, but I doubt I will ever get it full filled.

Anyway, hope you enjoy the new pics I added--- I've come a long way....

Oh, I currently have my hair cut down short (as you can see in the pics I took myself) but I want to show some concealer pics as well when/if I grow it out again.

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Fantastic synopsis of your HT journey, so far!

Two quick q's: you mentioned having a "limited" donor, as one of your 3 difficulties regarding HTs....are you referring to the inherent "limited" donor that we all have, or that your actual donor isn't that great? I ask because having already had 6600+ grafts, and looking at getting 1.5-2k more, your total seems pretty robust....? Also, you mention maxing yourself out with FUE possibly once this is all done...any idea how many extra grafts you might be "squeezing" out?

Thx for the update!
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:46 PM
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Thana--- characteristics--- even though my graft total is high, it is a bit misleading b/c my individual follicles do not give the average coverage that one could expect.

If I got any additional 1K through strip that would be great.
I am hopeful I could get another 1K through fue.
Anything more would be a blessing.
I am carefully watching some beard hair tests of others to see if that can be used--- but that is only a future potential possibility.

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Thx for the answers, and I wish you the best in your future pursuits (follicular AND legal), in which you will be, of course, in the best of hands.


And let's go beard hair!
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But, I have continued to lose some hair, albeit slightly, in my laterals. Enough to finally convince me to begin Propecia and Rogaine foam
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B-Spot,

Your grafts looks very natural, kinda thin but hey, who here wouldn't want their hair thicker?

I feel for you as I am in the same boat with a fine caliper of hair shaft. Damn genetics! At least we are blessed with infinite knowledge and loads of testosterone!

Have you considered growing it out and combing straight back?

I think the all-time outsanding cases: Bobman, Jotronic, Bill, Futzyhead etc. all have thicker than average hair shaft diameters and this is the huge differencemaker. They also have not lost too much in the lateral humps, high sides are a real benefit.

Glad to see your new pics and you have come a long way.

ps: If BHT improves, I think i could really help guys like us with the crown.
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