[QOUTE} Sorry, I very much disagree with the statement that there is only one "right" hairline for a patient. And even the great docs miss the mark sometimes.


Bspot said , There is only the "right" hairline for each individual patient---Great docs know this and plan/give results accordingly.
I believe hes saying hair tranplants shouldnt be designed cookiecutter style and good docs understand this a plan and tailor the surgery for you.

Just because you like a doctors cookie cutter hairline doesnt mean you should go to him . Imagine an Armani hairline on a 50 year old . My hairline on you or yours on mine wouldnt fit.
If hes 50 and a nw3 then a wall of hair placed properly would look good.
I picked Dr Shapiro because he tailors your hair to fit you .
Not sure about other clinics but even using 1 hair grafts in the hairline isnt enough.
I know SMG looks for the finest 1 hair grafts to put in the first line, not just any 1 hair grafts.

IMO I don't think it's necessarily a "cookie-cutter" issue.

I think that any cosmetic surgeon - much like any artist - probably develops a personal style which will run throughout their work.

Despite the period, you can always spot the respective works of Van Gogh, Matisse, etc...

And it's not that I think talented docs can't change gears; but I do think individual style comes into play.

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Everyone of Armanis hairlines look the same and so do some other doctors.
If you can spot any doctors work imo its not top notch.
Any great doc will know when to shift gears and that should be on almost any patient.
Some I feel arent capable of this.
Anyway I was just trying to clarify what Bspot was saying .
His words got a little mixed up

I understand.

And it's not that I could "spot" a doctor's work, but if you showed me ten people who had a transplant and I knew 5 were Armani and 5 were, say, H&W, I'd be willing to bet I'd be somewhat accurate in figuring out which were which.

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At our clinic, the definition of "mature" with regards to a hairline is in the height of the hairline on the forehead. This is opposed to a "juvenile" hairline where the height would be lower and the temples less receded or, at the extreme, completely filled in.

In my case, my hairline is mature in height and design in that the proper temple recession is built in as well as a soft transition zone. My case would have been a disaster had Dr. Wong packed in the grafts at high density right up to the very front of the hairline.

What has not been mentioned is how a hairline looks from the profile of the patient. There has to be a balance achieved from the front to the back and in cases of heavy front loading and lowering of the hairline on a patient that even has only slightly noticeable thinning in the back, well, it just looks odd. Patients like this look to me like if they were balanced on the tip of a pole that they would fall forward. I've seen it before even on people that I had not met before and did not have direct knowledge of them being an HT patient. I knew right away that they had been though because of this imbalance in their profile.

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Joe,

Can you please provide more insight on how a flash affects the denisty of hairline as well as angulation. It is amazing from the pictures I have seen from some clinics on how the density changes significantly from using a flash vs not using a flash...

Thanks

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Joe is on the mark about flashes and he can resond. It is critical to take consistent pics. With face procedures, more than hair, lighting can make wrinkles, and bags under the eyes look worse or better, and acne scars as well.

Just one example is an old (90's) Bryan Adams video where his severe ice-pick acne scars weren't visible. It was because of very bright frontal lighting. In a few shots, there was a shadow as he bent over, and all the marks were there.

When I used to do a fair amount of lasering on the face, this was an important discussion point between the patient and me in order to inform the patient of realistic outcomes.

Same deal with bright light illuminating white scalp behind dark hair, and the noticable difference without the flash. The difference can be almost as profound as a topical camouflage.

Dr. Lindsey McLean VA

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I've read a number of places where a "mature hairline" is normal for men as we age. I have a friend who's 42. He has the same hairline since i've known him almost 20 years. So while i've read thoughts that a mature man would not want the hairline of a teen, isn't that objective? Having the hairline of a teen?

Just thinking what people general mean. I guess i'm just trying to understand what people mean.

There was another post of a pic recently in which a 40 yr old man was offered by some Doctors on here to lower his hairline. But he was happy with his higher hairline - i think if i remember he just wanted more density.

So when it's all said and done, and enough donor hair is available, couldn't a HT patient drag the hairline down to where he was a teen?

So - just curious.

Thanks!!

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I thought that's common for every good surgeon to select the 1 hair grafts and the finest 1 hair grafts to put them into the hairline, isn't it?