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Old 04-15-2009, 11:25 AM
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Alot of dirt being kicked up for no good reason, which may scare people away, especially once they have chosen. Dr. Wong has never been known to make any foolish choices and has shown many fantastic transformations of high norwoods, Jotronic included.

Going through with the operation is a huge emotional and financial investment and people need encouragement.

Once someone has put a deposit on (say) a new Mercedes, and is awaiting its delivery from the factory, you dont start posting links to consumer reports showing all the flaws with the model. You post encouragement for a decision well made.

There is a time and a place, and a proper manner. Kicking up dirt, and questioning one's choice (especially given it is Wong), really has no place. There are tactful ways to handle concerns like these without inciting riots in the forums. Perhaps real concerns can be aired privately without as much dramatic effect.
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Wantego and Swagger,

The "rules" of this forum are listed in our terms of service.

We also have a number of guidelines that we follow that can be found throughout the forum. This thread was created because it is a new guideline I will follow.

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P.S. This thread was not created to rehash old and locked arguments nor to discuss a particular clinic. Please respect this.
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Now i just want to say because i geard about PGP that once i had a big fight with him and he honestly started creeping me out
was that when it all started as a joke and all of a sudden PGP turned into the big green monster Hulk and started to swing left and right relentlessly ?
BAD PGP BAD, if you ever try something like that on me know that i'll be telling it to my momma and then you'll see.....
seriously i never knew/realized how sensitive this forum really is/was. but when it comes to warnings and suspensions, then yeah i can see what the fuss is all about. after all there is only so much room under the umbrella and it would be so hard to keep everybody under it so somebody needs to get wet too.
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not GSP but one of these two guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_CzRMSSDDw
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Hahaha but as long as its not these two Im straight. I think I can handle myself.

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Alot of dirt being kicked up for no good reason, which may scare people away, especially once they have chosen. Dr. Wong has never been known to make any foolish choices and has shown many fantastic transformations of high norwoods, Jotronic included.

Going through with the operation is a huge emotional and financial investment and people need encouragement.

Once someone has put a deposit on (say) a new Mercedes, and is awaiting its delivery from the factory, you dont start posting links to consumer reports showing all the flaws with the model. You post encouragement for a decision well made.

There is a time and a place, and a proper manner. Kicking up dirt, and questioning one's choice (especially given it is Wong), really has no place. There are tactful ways to handle concerns like these without inciting riots in the forums. Perhaps real concerns can be aired privately without as much dramatic effect.
none is kicking up dirt thats all in your head. And noone created a riot...unless u think that to police opinions like the moderator of another site its the way to go. Its another thing what this thread was created about and you are taking it somewhere else.

real concerns for me dont have to go privately because this forum wouldnt need to exist and we could all PM each other...and maybe that way you could give your opinion to me privately so that we could avoided the so called drama that you describe...still you didnt

anyway you made your point and i totally disagree with it so wont take it into ccount
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Now i just want to say because i geard about PGP that once i had a big fight with him and he honestly started creeping me out but i am smart enough to understand when someone offers a lot to this community. Even then... i wouldnt change PGP for 100 smooth talking posters. But thats just me and this place needs everyone to respect everybody and talk an a civil manner.

bingo!!... i wouldnt trade you either hopefull
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Exactly! If a friend of mine said he did his research and scheduled a surgery with one of the top-5 doctors in the industry, I would not post pictures of NW-7 and try to scare him with "what if" questions. I would not question the integrity of the doctor he chose.
i could not disagree with you more.........

there are people like myself who feel that ASKING QUESTIONS are the only way to get true answers... hopeful did not post this to scare drew he posted it because he felt its something drew REALLY needs to consider... and drew is better for it if you ask me...

with all due respect, i feel as though you see things backwards man...

hopeful wishes the best for drew i TRULY believe this and he said so himself.. infact he cares so much about a total stranger he takes time to inform him of risks that you dont seem to believe exist as long as he chooses a "top 5er"......

i know you may not want to hear this but patients have been BOTH hurt and helped by their decision to have a HT, EVEN THOSE CHOOSING THE BEST THE BUSINESS HAS TO OFFER.. their stories can be found on here aswell.. it may be a scary thing for some to accept but that does not change the FACT that it is real, and should be considered... with a decision such as this that is so very LIFE CHANGING one does not need encouragment my friend... they need ANSWERS.. REAL ANSWERS.... the encouragment comes after they have taken the leap

some people buy into the cherrypicked results
some have seen enough to know that they are exactly that.

some people help by trying to inform
some people help by saying 'good luck slugger'

personally if i came here to ACTUALLY LEARN i dont need ecouragement NEAR as much as i need facts...... even if those facts are scary.... im a big boy so i could handle it..infact, id be thankful

Well said LMS

Alot of us who visit this site sometimes really need to here the truth. Because at the end of it the clinic could advise all the solutions possible to get a HT but in some situations what if getting a HT just is not suitable.
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