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I had seen a similar product online before. The main difference with this and PRP is that PRP will have 7 times as much platelets and hence growth factors than this will. Therefore, if you can get a benefit from the scalp roller - PRP should be better.
The Price seems a bit high for what is essentailly a ball with needles. What about issues with hygiene - could it be used more than once - shouldn't it be sterile each time? What about pain, since no anaesthetic is administered? Seems like a bit of a gimmick - just to keep up with the latest developments. I noticed in the intercytex trials that "pre-stimulation" of the scalp increased hair count more dramatically than without it. They must have used this scalproller thing. In my eyes this info does make PRP more credable. Although I'd prefer to have PRP done than use some roller device on my head. And like I said, PRP should be better.
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nyny12 - to answer your question.. no not in my view. it does make some statements however that in my opinion actually weaken the argument for PRP.
Since PRP is administered in conjunction with injury to the scalp (to borrow Dr. Farjo's term) one is left with 2 potentially influencing factors simltaneously that can affect growth. therefore one cannot be sure if growth seen with PRP is a result of the plasma or a result of the injury that accompanied it. Since Doctors would rather charge $600 for the more "complex" approach I doubt any would offer to run a needle roller on your head for a much more nominal fee of say $10. this sounds awfully similar to aeration of lawns. It is true that lawns can thicken up by merely punching holes in the soil. A home use roller sounds interesting. A whole generation of balding men will all of a sudden be exposed to the world of S&M.
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Scalproller, what an interesting concept. So it's basically a ball with needles that rolls over your scalp? What is the hypothesis as to why injuring the scalp would be an effective hair loss treatment? Where is the science to support this belief?
Personally, I can't see how the above makes PRP more credible. Frankly, the above seems more like a promotion for Scalproller more than anything else. I'm also now sure how "cutting edge" PRP is and I'm still not comfortable calling it a "hair loss treatment". In my opinion, it's still an experimental "procedure" (not treatment) hypothesized to treat hair loss. Straight forward photos seem to convey that PRP may increase hair shaft diameter in a short period of time, though I'd like to see extreme close-ups of targeted areas before and after that may be more revealing. Also, I don't think there's any evidence yet to suggest it cause dormant hair follicles significantly impacted by male pattern baldness to grow. Personally, though I understand the excitement, I think there's a long way to go and many questions to be answered befor I'd ever feel comfortable calling it a "hair loss treatment". Best wishes, Bill
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Comment by Dr. Farjo: Pangaea is a company I have known for about 10 years which started out making a scalp fibres camouflage product called Nanogen which we sell on to some of our patients. They have become involved in a variety of other hair products over the years, but earlier this year they approached me after the Intercytex data suggested scalp 'stimulation' made a positive difference to the hair counts. They showed me their scalproller device and they suggested it could help stimulate hair growth on the principle of causing scalp injury, and they also speculated that it would significantly aid Minoxidil absorption into the scalp. They discussed a number of other interesting ideas and projects and I agreed that the principles behind their scalproller suggestions are scientifically plausible. We are currently in discussions about writing appropriate protocols for clinical trials. I can not endorse the Scalproller device itself until further clinical research is at hand.
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I don't know of hair restoration physicians who subscribe to the view that traumatizing the scalp with one of these rollers stimulates regrowth or enhanced growth on its own (absent the injection of platelet rich plasma beneath the epidermis) - but maybe some do? Esteemed physicians? a.j. |
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Who doesn't know where they bought a medical device with needles from?
The first post is just a release isn't it? Aren't they always promotional? I'm interested in the device because of Minoxidil really not PRP, but from what I can tell they seem to be saying it's great becuase it increases the effect of PRP, and it might be good by itself but there's not much proof? |
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