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Old 10-17-2009, 12:09 PM
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time,this post is confusing it does lead the reader to believe you are unhappy with YOURhts.have you had any hts yourself.and what exactly are you looking for the ppost is misleading and confusing
Again-let me re-explain myself. This is an email from someone else describing their experience. Some of it contradicted what I have read in the past and wanted other posters opinion. This will hopefully clear up any confusion.
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Old 10-17-2009, 02:29 PM
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What did it "contradict"? I think that's the key thing that needs to be made clear so as to evaluate the contention(s) being made by either camp.
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What did it "contradict"? I think that's the key thing that needs to be made clear so as to evaluate the contention(s) being made by either camp.
Yes, I found some of the statements in this email to be contradictory to what I've read in other places. I found the email intriguing and want to investigate further but can't reach the person who wrote it. They indicate their transplant was a huge mistake for their type of hair type and characteristics. They said they wish all of their grafts had been placed on the crown. From what I've read the crown is a 'hair pit' meaning it takes a huge amount of grafts to cover it adequately. It sounds like what they are saying is they would have preferred a comb over brushed forward. Couldn't they also achieved the same effect if the grafts were placed in the front and had a comb over brushed back? They said a hair piece behind their frontal would look awful and even more obvious. My stylist has shown me other clients with this and I couldn't notice anything that looked fake or obvious. How long ago did they have their transplant? They compare it to Joe Biden. They are right his is very detectable but the advancements in the past five years down to the single graft has made them undetectable and I've seen many people with transplants using the newer procedures who I'd never be able to tell. In the hands of the right doctor strip scars and hardly noticeable. He is basing his views on his experience but I wonder why his experience is so different from other opinions I've read on here. That is why I'm saying his contradicts other statements. I'm not saying his statements aren't valid for his experience just different from others I've read. All I can imagine is he had a procedure long ago by a bad surgeon. I just want to make sure from other posters that this isn't what I've got to look forward to. I'm sure others out there have read something that scares them and wants confirmation on the validity.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:27 AM
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I agree with the original post almost 100%. I don't want a huge bald circle in the back of my head. I'd rather have the HT be a bit thinner and cover the entire area. I also tried wearing a hair system behind the HT in front, but couldn't pull it off because the frontal hair was too thin, high, unnatural looking to look right with a hair system behind it.

If you know you want the back covered and you know you are OK with wearing a hair system then cover the front half first to a point where it's thick enough to be acceptable to you while still leaving some donor grafts available. Then try the hair piece behind it and see if you can live with that for a while. If not then use up the remaining grafts to give a thin coverage to the back.

This can be a good idea to use the hair system on the back for a few years and then as you get older and may be more comfortable with a thin area in back, then go back and transplsnt that area and do away with the hair system.

That was my plan, but the HT Dr insisted on covering the back first just to prove that I didn't need the hair system at all. Don't let that happen to you.
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I want to know as much as I can before making a mistake so I'm looking for the opinions of others in regards to what this guy had to say.
Time-you quote this line above, yet it appears you've already had TWO procedures with Dr. Epstein. What do you mean when you say you want information "BEFORE making a mistake.."?? Thanks..
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If you know you want the back covered and you know you are OK with wearing a hair system then cover the front half first to a point where it's thick enough to be acceptable to you while still leaving some donor grafts available.
BeHappy,

This is EXACTLY my plan! I always thought the reason why sometimes this approach doesn't work was due to the patient not being brave enough to go for a high density at the front hair line and temples. Perhaps there is more to it than that, like hair characteristics etc.

In terms of wearing a hair piece behind a thin transplanted hair line, I believe hair systmes now-a-days can be of a low density. Do you think that would help or not?
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I'm having a third procedure. Hope that clears up any confusion.
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If you know you want the back covered and you know you are OK with wearing a hair system then cover the front half first to a point where it's thick enough to be acceptable to you while still leaving some donor grafts available.
BeHappy,

This is EXACTLY my plan! I always thought the reason why sometimes this approach doesn't work was due to the patient not being brave enough to go for a high density at the front hair line and temples. Perhaps there is more to it than that, like hair characteristics etc.

In terms of wearing a hair piece behind a thin transplanted hair line, I believe hair systmes now-a-days can be of a low density. Do you think that would help or not?
Yes, hair pieces may be made at any density. I've seen numerous guys with a crown piece and the ones I've seen are undetectable. If someone has one that doesn't blend it is probably a low quality one done by a non professional.
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1540 two hair grafts
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5070 Total hair count

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870 one hair grafts
1150 two hair grafts
364 three and four hair grafts
4262 Total hair count

Dr. Ron Shapiro November 18, 2009
1896 grafts
760 one hair grafts
852 two hair grafts
288 three hair grafts
46 four hair grafts
3362 total hair count

Dr. Ron Shapiro July 1, 2011
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