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Old 03-22-2009, 02:28 PM
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I'm inclined to trust Dr. Feller's assessment of this case.

You could make the argument that when the fault lies entirely with the doctor and clinic, there are usually a few common indicators of negligence that accompany and possibly influence the low yield:

-Noticeable scarring/pitting in the recipient area

-An unnatural hairline

-Awkward placement/angulation of grafts

-A warped-looking donor area

In this case, we don't see any of these signs. The outcome wasn't good, but incompetent surgeons seem to always leave their patients with the token signs of botched work on top of the poor growth.

I guess we are arguing semantics at this point; but to me, this looks like someone who obviously needs more work, not anything corrected.

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Old 03-22-2009, 02:52 PM
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Dear Members,

Let's not make this a "patient verses physician" thing. Ultimately, we encourage all patients to contact their doctor privately to resolve any concerns first. However, we also welcome all patients to share their genuine concerns and photos on our forum.

The doctor/patient relationship is actually one of the most important factors in surgical hair restoration. Ultimately, a patient needs to know that he can trust his physician with his scalp and in turn a physician needs to know that he can trust his patient to come to him to resolve any concerns.

Our forum is to share genuine experiences, good or bad. But it can never accomplish what a doctor/patient relationship can. Ultimately, we can offer advice and steer patients in the right direction. But only the doctor can work with the patient to help him meet his goals.

UnfortunateHT has come and shared his genuine experience and has a great attitude and has asked for help from members of this community. Let's not get caught up in blame games when the reality is that hair transplant surgery is not an exact science and no doctor bats a thousand.

It's not a perfect track record that makes a physician great, but how a physician handles less than optimal results and his patients.

One thing that bothers me is that it seems that sometimes members develop this mob mentality against the doctor any time a less than favorable result is shared. Worse yet, sides are taken before all the information is presented.

Surgeons recommended on the Hair Transplant Network must stand behind their patients in order to stay recommended by our community. Therefore, we should not see things as Us (patients) verses Them (doctors), but as a cooperative team that collaborates in helping patients get the best results possible.

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I am not heartless and I am not un-empathetic to your situation, but if you had come to me personally you would have found that I would have offered you a significant discount on a second procedure. I would have done so not because I felt I did anything wrong, I know for a fact that I haven't; but because I know what it's like to be 25 years old, to be losing my hair, and to be tight on money; it would be my pleasure to see that my 'boys' get the very best I can offer.

I think it's inappropriate to have this exchange online in a public forum, but you chose the venue, not I. As I've always said, I have no problem if a 24/7 live broadcast were made from my office covering all my consultations and surgeries. Transparency is a point of pride for me and there is nothing I would tell you in private that I wouldn't tell you in front of the entire HT community.

dr feller... any way you slice it your are NOT taking responsibilty for YOUR patients poor result... assuming he did lose native hair behind the work it STILL shows a poor LONG TERM plan set by you... he does not look like he had good growth anyway.. by your above quote you sound as if youplan to punish UHT simply because he came to US and not you.... so you are not heartless as you say but apparently you have no problem holding grudges?? your patents has not ripped or bashed you.. he simply did what WE ALL SHOULD DO.. post his results honestly.... i hope that if YOUR LUCKY ENOUGH to have UHT trust you with a future procedure our actually SHOW that your not "heartless" or "un-empathetic" and do what it takes to make this patient happy.. if i were him id go elsewhere simply based on your un-called for arrogance and your refusal to admit resposibility for YOUR PATIENTS POOR RESULT... this patient owes you NOTHING.. he paid you.. you, on the other hand own him, if you wish to be what you say you are as a DR. yet you wanna get upset because he didnt keep the REALITY of his transplant "hush hush" from all of us.
he went public.. SO WHAT.. he is in the right to do so.... IMHO, you ought to man up, and swallow your pride(if thats possible) and take care of it like someone who isnt "heartless"
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:17 PM
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i have found dr feller to be one of the honest doctors out on the forums. if you look at the last pic in the gallery & the pic right after surgery it shows what results might be expected. behind the center hairline is an area that was not touched. 7 months later you still see hair there, 2 years later it is gone. the left & right hairline looks pretty good combed back but the front center is weak because there is a newer bald spot.

when i left dr fellers office after my 1st consultation i had no illusions of a perfect result or that nothing could go wrong. the biggest fear was what if i look like all those other regretful patients. research is your best friend but anything can still happen.

it's kinda like a horse race. you can have the best horse & jockey. you can research the track, weather & odds with everything in your favor. then the race is over & you came in last for no logical reason. do you ask for your bet back? no. if there was something irresponsible done you have a case but dr feller has not been shown to have done anything to be liable for.

i'm unsure if 2000 or 1200 grafts grew. what was the amount that dr true said? was it 2000 or not?
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let it be KNOWN that if you are a Feller patient who has a poor result YOU WILL BE PUNISHED BY THE GOOD DOC IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO PUBLIC AND HONESTLY INFORM THIS COMMUNITY OF YOUR EXPERIENCE... but hey if your happy then post away......


please... who the hell does this guy think he is?

UHT-- my advice is dont set foot in this guys office again.. unless your getting money back. .. i wish you the best and i thank you for posting your experience in a honest and mature fashion...

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Old 03-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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After I read this yesterday, I had a feeling that this thread would get some attention.

I think what people need to realize is that this result has nothing to do with the "reality of transplants" but it has a lot more to do with the reality of life. Nothing is ever guaranteed. It's a hard thing to accept, so people start coming up with things like "he never should have had a transplant, etc." The truth is, we've seen plenty of young guys with aggressive loss who started with their procedures early and had wonderful success. Sometimes things don't work out. it's a harsh reality- and not anybody's fault.

This post makes people nervous, because everyone wants guarantees, and there simply aren't any guarantees. Not just in hair transplantation, but in everything and anything. The best you can do is to stack the odds in your favor and hope for the best. Any doctor who can "guarantee" a good result is lying. That's why all top doctors refer to the "x" factor. Unfortunately, Dr. Feller, Dr. Hasson, Dr. Wong, Dr. Shapiro, etc. can post a thousand amazing results, but it's going to be the rare guy who doesn't grow who will garner all the attention on a thread like this one.

This is exactly why a doctor would prefer a patient to come to him first. Posting in a public forum causes everyone to start bashing with stuff like: "what went wrong?" and "this guy never should have had a transplant." Everyone is just dying to be negative. Meanwhile, you end up scaring someone who might have wandered onto this thread. We all know that Dr. Feller is excellent. We know that for every guy like this, there are God knows how many successes. This forum exists to protect people from the hacks. Putting too much emphasis on a single result can be confusing for someone who is doing research. Dr. Feller is the sort of doctor you want to lead people towards, not away from. No doctor who I know of on this forum has ever claimed to have a perfect success rate. Harping on this thread is no different than showering praise on a doctor for one single guy who looks good, when he has a thousand guys who look terrible.

Dr. Feller is in his corner. I've heard stories on of doctors who had patients who didn't grow, where the doctors did not want to hear about it. They literally wouldn't come to the phone in their offices. I say, work it out with Dr. Feller, he is interested in getting you to where you want to be. If anybody doubts his integrity or skill because of this guy's result, you should be just as ready to doubt every doctor who has a guy like this.. which is every single one.
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Dr Feller I know you mean well and have alot of pride but being a doctor you really need to get rid of this attitude when things dont go exactly your way
Let guys like me act immature . I would expect more from you.
I would hope youll do the same for this guy even if he came to you first.

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Sorry to post again... but I also think some people here are missing the point completely.

Dr. Feller has actually stated that he has other patients like this. So does every doctor. He is not claiming to be perfect, nor is he trying to cover anything up.

The issue is not whether this guy has the right to post, but the unfortunate way people react to posts like this. In a perfect world, people would be able to conclude that this is simply a guy who didn't grow out well. But what happens instead is that everyone starts contributing opinions as if they knew more about the case than they do. That's why doctors prefer it if a patient comes to them.

Hasn't this doctor posted enough excellent results over the years for you to trust him? If it weren't for "Monday morning quarterbacking" and people playing doctor on here, I bet Dr. Feller would have no issue with showing a pic like this himself.

And by the way... there is another thread right now where a Dr. Feller patient grew out beautifully, and you know what? Dr. Feller actually posted a link to this thread on that other one. How is that for transparency?
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Swagger,

Did your medication wear out between your last two posts or something?

I understand your initial concerns, but as you've done in the past, you are being way too black and white. Frankly, you're one of the reasons why I posted above about this not turning into a mob fest against the doctor. This is not an Us (the patients) verses Them (the physicians) situation, nor does it have to be.

If you felt Dr. Feller spoke harshly with his patient and/or is failing to put himself in his patient's shoes, you could have just said it. Instead, your words are filled with hostility and were used like a poison to destroy rather than a constructive exhortation.

Nothing in your last post is truthful and is borderline libelous. Dr. Feller did nothing to "punish" this patient - he simply expressed his preference that his patient came to him first. You also accuse him of not standing behind his patients and are doing harm to the patient by encouraging him not to work toward resolution with his physician.

If you are going to make statements like this, you will be expected to substantiate them. Just as we hold physicians accountable for their action, so must we hold posters accountable for theirs.

Though all genuine opinions are welcome, we expect them to be constructive and not wrongfully destructive.

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no Bill my meds are on schedule.. what happened was i responded as diplomatic as i am capable of at first.. once finished i say a post from feller that i had not seen prior.. it set me off....

its bull s**t IMO to have this guy act as though his patient did something wrong in posting his result for us... feller is sending a bad message IMO... and then to openly state that since he went pubilc feller is not likely to be as kind with his case??? gimmie a break

feller is the only guy who makes my ego look small.... he is a vengeful "god" apparently. i dont like that.and i dont respect that........

anyway ive said my peace, i care very little what responses it gets from the good doc. so do not worry about it getting out of hand..


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