Hi there I ask this question as a person seriously considering hair transplantation and in no way to discredit hair transplantation; Who here has had a hair transplant that can stand up to harsh lighting including full sunlight and not produce the see-through look? I would primarily like to hear from people who can say ???yes, me???, thank you.

Julius,

Truthfully, only the rare patient's hair transplant of "true density" can stand up completely under harsh lighting without any see-through effect.

Even after 9600 grafts over a Norwood 5A/6, certain really harsh lighting makes my hair appear thinner than it actually is under normal lighting conditions. On the flip side, certain lighting makes my hair appear as thick as it used to be in high school.

I know a few guys with minimal hair loss who've received ultra dense packing achieving densities as high as 70 to 80 FU/cm2 with terrific growth yield. It would be interesting to hear from some of these patients, but I suspect that their hair stands up a whole lot better under harsh lighting as patients with 40 FU/cm2.

Remember that hair transplantation is not perfect. But even though it may appear thinner under harsh lighting, under normal lighting conditions, a good hair transplant will appear natural and give a patient more hair than he would have had without it.

Best wishes,

Bill

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Thanks Bill, it maybe the truth but it's not what I was hoping to hear. The pictures of Shuffle in full sunlight outdoors and a select few seem to contradict this though, and even though Shuffle had dense packing it was not super dense packing at true density. Surely there are others whose ht can stand up to harsh lighting including full sunlight and not produce the see-through look and their chiming in here would be greatly appreciated. You never know Bill in a few more months the way your 4th ht is going you may be one of them.

I had to go and find Shuffle... He has an amazing result, but he wears his hair quite long and all that mass of hair provides a barrier to the light hitting his scalp. With shorter hair, combed through slowly and filmed closer up under strong sunlight, I think you'd see through it to an extent.

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Ya, I'd agree that most will not have true-density in which hair will be non-see-through in almost any condition. With a world-class HT, however, many can reach enough density to where they can style their hair in a pleasing way and achieve a good density-illusion.

It's really a numbers game, over the backdrop of your hair charachteristics and scalp-contrast (both of which can be improved to some degree through styling, IMHO).

For a while, even under the most brutal conditions, my density appeared "flawless" without having to do much beside put in some wax and spike it. With continued loss, this is not the case anymore, and I have stumbled backwards a bit on the illusion's scale.

It's important to note that the HT truly is for most a journey, and you have to be willing to accept that you may very well have to adapt to dynamic conditions such as continued loss.

Re: myself, currently....I'm styling my hair forward with a ton of texturizing done to it, and my hair looks non-see-through. Ironically, I actually prefer how I look with this style these days, so sometimes a changing of the tide and adapting to the HT isn't a total downer anyways.

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I definitely agree that styling such as in shuffle's case is a factor in improving the illusion of density. However for thana to say that "for a while, even under the most brutal conditions, my density appeared 'flawless'" certainly makes me think that there are possibly those out there whose hair loss has halted or is so slow as to allow this for an extended period and I would certainly love to hear from them.

Julius, just to clarify that statement some....it only appeared that way when I styled it. Of course, styling it is something I would do HT or no HT, so it's not a detriment to *have* to style your hair, or your HT, in my opinion.

But even when my hair appeared fully dense under harsh lighting, I was still operating within an illusion.

I think what kills HTs, or conversely makes them, are how you style them, which again, I don't consider to even be a negative, per say, as styling your hair is something that is a benefit whether you have MPB or not. It simply becomes more essential when you do.

Lighting conditions are certainly very important, too, but while I do feel that some HTs can indeed stand up to harsh/brutal lighting, I think it is truly a *very* rare HT that can actually stand up to harsh/brutal "styling".

It's all a bit subjective, too, when you get really particular about what constitutes "thin", and the debate goes on amongst even esteemed doctors when deciding what they feel gives off the full illusion of density.

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Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death!

I totally know what you mean about the subjective nature of hts eg. 1 or 2 pass procedures & sagittals vs laterals.

IMO the undercut seems to work well or any styling where the hair is styled forward and flat while hair spiked back is harder to pull off. Cheers

Being able to see through the hair isn't that big of a deal. I've seen guys without hair loss that just happen to have low density.

But the big question is, would someone look at you and say "That guy has thin hair", or would they say "That guy looks like he had a transplant".

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I've looked down at passing children and noticed see-through hair if the lighting is right and the hair is styled in such a way that lets the light in. Needless to say that the same is true of adults.

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