I know, when Lawyers are becoming "saved," the end is definetly near. I would also like to offer guidance and info for anyone who would like to learn about how to become saved.

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In return, I would like to offer guidance and info for anyone who wishes to renounce beliefs in imaginary beings and instead place reality on his or her own shoulders.

40, that next 40 will go by quicker than the first, then...
Basically faith is believinging in something you can't prove.
Like, do you love your mother? Ofcourse...so...PROVE IT.
Same issue with faith. When I die, lets say, just for saying, I'm wrong, what do I lose? But if I'm right...What do you lose? Big gamble your making.
Just because we can't see the spiritual world, doesn't make it cease to exist.

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Hi Leeson - good for you. It's not my belief any longer, but I respect those that hold it. Of course, I cannot disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster either.

Terry Pratchett satirised Pascal's wager as follows:

A philosopher claimed, "Possibly the gods exist, and possibly they do not. So why not believe in them in any case? If it's all true you'll go to a lovely place when you die, and if it isn't then you've lost nothing, right?" When the philosopher died, he woke up in a circle of gods holding nasty-looking sticks and one of them said, "We're going to show you what we think of Mr Clever Dick in these parts ..."



Respect, bro

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Pascal's wager has 2 elements as I see it, Pratchett makes an amusing satire of the weaker internal element by showing that the motivation for a given belief is important not just the belief held. However, the external element Pascal is talking about involves the risk/reward of belief in God vs unbelief based on whether God actually does exist or not. In this second regard I think Pascal makes a good point.

Anyway, I'm not really here to defend Pascal.

Unlike the flying spaghetti monster, Leeson would no doubt say that his faith is based on Jesus Christ, a historical person for whom there is very strong evidence that he did in fact exist.

Anyway, for clarification, I'm not wagering, I was throwing that out there from a quote I heard. If I was wagering, it wouldn't be sincere, hence void.

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Well, in all honesty (assuming we non-believers are actually capable of honesty without fearing god's wrath), I was just teasing you a little; offering the other side of the "let me help" coin. But I do hope you have better rationale for your belief than "what if I'm wrong?". That is kind of kindergarten-ish... Now, let me say, I DO understand it is a "faith" rather than a belief. And, I know it has nothing to do with level of education, as I work daily with MIT physicists who are devoutly religious. I personally am just not capable of faith in any type of religion whatsoever. I spent over 20yrs in the military, traveled to 35 or 40 countries and lived in 7 for extended periods (1 to 3 yrs). My life, from age of awareness through now, has thoroughly enveloped me in a belief that this entire universe was NOT created for us pathetic little blobs of celestial spittle sitting in the middle of a very normal, run of the mill, galaxy that's equivilant to a single grain of sand on all the beaches on the earth. I would find religion the absolute MOST laughable thing in history if it wasn't for the fact its already got the title of most murderous, atrocity ridden, genocidal, phobic oriented, scheme in human history. Most religious people I know can't understand how someone without faith can have morals, integrity, honesty, or true human compassion. That is TERRIFYING to me and leads me to believe most people who believe in god and religion are emotionally and mentally flawed to a point beyond my ability to understand. These are just my opinions though.

I think that both myself and Leeson have made clear that we don't believe due to the risks of being an atheist. Indeed to do this would be to be insincere as Acrobaz pointed out.

You also admit that is it your subjective interpretation of all forms of religion that has made you decide that none are credible.

However, you then go on to make some objective claims that religion is the . First of all the facts are that the most murderous regimes in history were atheists generally bent on destroying religion. Look at Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, Chang Kai Shek and Hitler. The biggest four mass murderers of the 20th century. According to the German magazine Bild they were responsible for over 120 million deaths between them, and no one could dispute that the figure is in the tens of millions.

Secondly, I think it is wrong to label all religions as the same just as much as it is wrong to label all political ideologies as the same. Fascism and Democracy are very different.

As a Christian I try to follow the teachings of Jesus who said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." If everyone tried to do this then there would be a lot less atrocities not more. Like anything in life religion can be abused by people who are seeking their own ends. Hair transplantation is a good example. In certain cases done well it can make a positive difference to a person but abused by unethical selfish people wanting to make money it can cause a lot of harm.

Also I do believe that people who are not religious can have morals, integrity, honesty, or true human compassion. (I don't believe anyone living on earth today displays those things perfectly.) I can see from some of your other posts for example that you have been kind enough to complement other guys on the results they acheived and been supportive of people going through the process.

Are the MIT physicists you mentionned mentally flawed?

Unlike Pascal in his wager Jesus did not primarily threaten God's wrath but brought a message of hope and God's forgiveness and healing to people.

Leeson i'm happy...you appear a good and a happy guy.

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Leesom,

As a fellow Christian, I'm very happy to hear that you recently came to know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

Taking the road to follow Christ was the best decision I ever made.

Best wishes,

Bill

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