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Old 09-14-2009, 03:18 PM
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:23 PM
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Ok. I agree that Alvi Armani is using too many grafs.

this is not ethic for you. but ethic changes from one person to other person.

I think these, he wants to give excellent result for his patient. he is very very rich person. he dont do everything for money.

If I would have earned at least 20,000$ in a week. I didnt care money.


all doctors can give bad results.

I am sure that Dr Feller, Dr. Hasson & Wong , Dr. Feriduni gave bad results.

nobody is God.

there is a quote in medicine. there is no illness .there is patient.

everything can change depending on one factor.
something is chance.

I have searched many paitent's FUE result. I didn't see same quality of Dr. Armani.

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what is the reason of this.
why can armani do thick hair ?
is he using different stuff ?


thanks and sorry for my terrible English.
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:34 PM
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You had like 10 people all say Armani isn't worth going to. Bill and Pat that run this website don't recommend Armani. I've spoken with surgeons (some of who I had consultations with) who said Dr. Armani is highly unethical. Why ask more questions???

I'd highly recommend Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Paul Shapiro or Dr. Feller. They to me produce the best fue results.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:23 PM
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You're right malborn that EVERY doctor has bad results. That my friend, is unfortunately the only part of your post that I agree with.

Armani may be a very ethical man in his personal life, he may be doing what he feels is in the best interests of his patients in his professional life, but those are things that I do not know. What I do know is that graft counts are limited, and Armani using FAR more than is safe and appropriate in his patients. I believe that is unethical because in the future, a number of his patients will look absurd. I respect your belief that ethics are an amorphous and individual concept, but I do not share it. Dr. Armani either knows what he is doing is wrong, or should know. Either way, he is not acting in the best interests of his patients, and that, for a physician, is unethical.

Last, the photos that you posted are all of men who had relatively mild baldness prior to surgery. I am certain that Dr. Armani packed the hell out of those scalps and got great results. If the top doctors on this site were as cavalier with patients futures as Dr. Armani is, you would see the same low, densely packed hairlines that he is infamous for. It is not a matter of "can they?", but rather is one of "should they?", and on younger patients, they shouldn't.

Dr. Armani does have MANY great looking results out there. However, he also has MANY complaints, poor results, and a poor reputation in his field. The ultimate choice is yours, but try not to be seduced by the irresponsible planning of Dr. Armani.
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Do not let Armani touch your head.

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Old 09-20-2009, 02:58 AM
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Stingray,

I know your result. when I was seaching Dr. Armani on this forum. I saw your result.

Also I saw your result on

http://www.hairlosspics.com/showgallery.php/cat/642
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dont worry. this is not too bad.


I wonder that. (for every doctor)

Why do this result occur ?
What is the cause?

I guess FUE is simple, you will take grafts by using needle. then you put in the hole again by using needle.

every doctor do same thing many times. but. why do they encounter bad results ?
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Armani is just the latest HT butcher.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:41 PM
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In speaking to many, observing others, and through our own experience...I believe the biggest hurdle to FUE YIELD is experienced technicians handling and placing the grafts.

At SMG we have Janna and several other techs who are simply amazing at their job....I believe if you look at the techs of other "top" docs, they will have 2-3 who have many years of experience handling/placing.

FUE grafts are fragile. You cannot handle them roughly, place them roughly into the sites or they will crush.

If you introduce speed or put too many people around the patients head...all to just make things faster, I believe this is where the quality control dips drastically.

Obviously, extraction of the grafts produces some level of transection--but even so, even if you cut a 3-4 hair graft, you rarely shear the entire graft--your still left with a 1-2 hair graft that can grow. Additionally, the cut graft left in the scalp has a chance to regenerate as well. If you ruin a graft AFTER extraction that is it.

Malborn---every doctor has their own staff and approach to FUE. It is not as simple as you have described it. Also, I find your comments directed to Stingray lacking a bit of compassion and understanding. Obviously, when a patient does his research, chooses his doctor and proceeds, he or she expects to achieve a result. REGARDLESS of why a patient is unhappy, the fact is they are unhappy. We all understand that there are results much worse than his...but we are individuals and some issues affect others harder than others. That is the same for a Shapiro patient or any other patient of any other clinic.

We have the occasional patient who loves the work, but wanted a bit more, or thought his hairline might be thicker, or wants the temples thicker etc... instead of making the patient feel like they did something wrong, we just take care of them. Other great clinics do the exact same thing.

Anyway, hopefully we can turn this thread to something constructive and educational.

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Old 09-20-2009, 02:16 PM
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I think its way better to do less grafts via FUE in 1 day than more. That way you know that it has taken them a whole day to plant 800 grafts, which means they have taken time over each 1.

Doing 3500 grafts via FUE in a day can only mean its been rushed IMO.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:38 AM
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sparky,

There is a doctor in Turkey. His name is Dr. Keser. he put only 800 grafs in a day. he don't put more graft because of less qualitiy.

everybody is very satisfied. but all people say same thing : he is very slow.

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An interval of 2 days between the sessions will be sufficient. There is no need to wait for months for the second session. 4-8 sessions can be carried out every other day. In every session, about 600-800 graft (FU) can be obtained. In each graft, there are usually 1-4 (rarely 5) hairs.5 sessions=3000 graft=6000 hairs.
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